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Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 4:21pmSanction this postReply
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Good call guys.  I don't know what you have in store but I am glad to see that there is a general shake up.  This website is very good and I hope that something similar survives in the future.  You guys have done some great work on the internet and I look forward to seeing what you do next.  Good luck and thank you for SOLOHQ. 

 - Jason


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Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 4:44pmSanction this postReply
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Joe,

I haven't said this before, but thank you for all your efforts! This is one of the most innovative websites I've seen in terms of content and organization. Good luck with future reincarnations and I look forward to new and different things ahead!

Jim


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Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 4:45pmSanction this postReply
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Thanks to all of you for the huge amount of effort you have put into SOLOHQ and the SOLO brand. I think that Joe and Linz are two of the most exciting minds in Objectivism, although distinctly different personalities. I am excited for whatever comes next.

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Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 5:33pmSanction this postReply
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WOW.

Joe R.,
As someone who promoted the "customer view" of Solo, I apologize for any negative results that may have had. Never did I intend to suggest that SOLO was open to the whims of the consumer, or such nonsense. Having been in retail long enough, I've had my share of "pushy customers" (I'd like to find the gent who suggested that the customer is always right and initiate some force!). I certainly never meant that the "customers" of Solo were entitled to anything for free! Mutual trade all the way. Though I couldn't contribute financially, I hoped to "give something back to the community" with articles and the music forum. I DO think it was a valid idea on some level, since Objectivism does work with a principle of mutual trade and commerce,but the metaphor of Solo as a business may have missed the point of the idea of activism, however, and your issue with the view of Solo as "entertainment" is a valid one (not that there has to be a dichotomy, of course. ;) )

Anyway, thank you Joe, Jeff, and Linz (and the many others who contributed), and best wishes for the future sites. I've learned a lot, made some good friends, and certainly will miss it.

SHINE ON...

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Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 5:41pmSanction this postReply
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Congratulations on building SOLO into what it is today.

Good luck to all its Founders, owners, and contributors on their future endeavors.

SOLO added value to all who had the pleasure of experiencing it.

And kudoes to Linz, Joe and Jeff for their going their separate ways in a respectful and professional manner (i.e., no dirty laundry).

I like the tone of the announcement. Change for change's sake is pointless. Change for good reasons is pro life. It is heartening to see great men part ways on amiable terms.



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Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 5:45pmSanction this postReply
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Linz, Joe and Jeff,

You have our heartfelt gratitude for all you have done until now. We met through Solo, so the gratitude is double.

You have made a major contribution toward spreading Objectivist ideas. May the future be as bright as the past, if not brighter.

Michael & Kat


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Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 5:56pmSanction this postReply
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Conclusion: By Joe Rowlands

Let's go over what we've learned. I've shown that there are two very different meanings to the word life. The static view of life holds that life is a state. The state of not being dead. It looks at any particular point in time, and points to what you've got.

The dynamic view of life holds that life is a process. You are living when you are acting. It looks at method as much as goals.

The two views have very different implications in areas such as health, happiness, and success. In every case given, the dynamic view of life is broader in its implications, and more valuable as a standard of evaluation. It suggests how you should act, and not just what you should act towards.

I'll end this speech on an interesting note. It's been said that men have unlimited desires. As soon as you satisfy some, they have new ones. Many people have taken this as a point to despair about. They think that we can never be happy because we can never achieve everything we want. If you're always left wanting, it must truly be a cruel world.

Well that's the static view of life talking. When you recognize that life is a process, and it's about the things you do, you realize the implications of their wishes. They wish for a state in which you have nothing further to pursue. You have no goals, no values, nothing new to accomplish. According to the dynamic view of life, your life would be over at this point.

Fortunately, we live in a world where we can always achieve new and greater things. There's no end to the possibilities we have ahead of us. Thank you.
 
Thank you Joe! and Thank you Linz! from Ciro D'Agostino
 



(Edited by Ciro D'Agostino on 11/27, 6:00pm)


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Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 6:04pmSanction this postReply
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Hm, this was surprising, especially since I only recently joined the site to further my study of Objectivism.

However, I am pleased to see the reasons for the discontinuation of SOLO HQ. Now, I know Joe said that the nature of many of the articles was one reason for this action. I would like to know if any of the articles will be posted elsewhere, perhaps on the new SOLO site.

"Thank you" wasn't the first thought to pop into my head, but I think you guys deserve it fully. Thanks for the wonderful site and your contributions (most of which I know nothing about) to further the Objectivist view of life in society.

Final question: Will the Free Radical continue to be published? If so, where can I find a link to somewhere where I can subscribe?

I wish you well in your efforts. I'm certain you'll do your absolute best!

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Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 6:32pmSanction this postReply
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Mark,

Good evening. I'd like to assure you that there will not be less after this split. Instead, there will be more. Both Lindsay and Joe are strongly motivated individuals, both planning on continuing to create active online communities. To quote Joe's announcement:
In the place of SoloHQ, we've chosen to branch off in multiple directions. Lindsay will retain the SOLO name brand, and will have a new website where he will present his own goals and direction for the organization. I will step down as Executive Director of SOLO and form my own organization and websites, with a stronger focus on activism. On Dec 1, this site will link to both of the new sites, where you can learn more about where we intend to take them.
Welcome to solohq, if I haven't said so already. If you have any questions, feel free to drop me a solo mail or you can start a new thread in the Q&A section. The sites not down yet. We can take advantage of its resources while its still here.

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Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 7:05pmSanction this postReply
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Joe,

I shall be forever grateful for the wonderful opportunity of SOLO Hq. I've met here some of the best minds of my generation and the generations after it. I wish you total success with your new intellectual ventures, whatever those might be.

There is enormous value in this site, and I hope that it will remain available. Is it OK to archive what is here for future use? Do you have plans to publish the archive? The software? When SOLOHq is closed, what conditions will there be for re-use?

With many thanks,

Adam Reed

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Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 7:12pmSanction this postReply
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I have stated my thanks recently and in the past.  I know how much work this is.  I have been the webmaster of www.michigancoinclub.org for the past two years, a task for which I am paid.  That site is fairly easy to maintain, and it nonethless work. So, I appreciate everything you have done here.
JR: "One problem is the popular view that SoloHQ is an entertainment site." 
I do not know where you get that "popular view" from.  Do you go to other Objectivist sites and read the gossip?  I only come here for Objectivism, so I know of no "popular view" of SOLO. 
JR: "People write articles that have next to no connection to Objectivism.  The best rewarded articles (in terms of sanctions) tend to be personal stories, often involving hardships and strong emotions, and with no substantial tie into Objectivism or even philosophy.  People found it was easier to get sanctions by detailing every sordid detail of their lives.  Activism was nowhere to be seen."

1.  You can crusade for Microsoft and Martha Stewart, but you have to keep your own house in order.  Ayn Rand worked as a waitress while writing.  Karl Marx lived off Friedrich Engels -- and Engels was stingy at that: poor Mrs. Marx! Objectivism is a personal philosophy.  If it does not work for one person, it will not work for a million.  The sanctions do indicate that these confessions resonate with many of us here. 

1.A. Of all the sordid stories, the threads I never bothered with were the "Passionate Critics" unnested loops.
I wanted to call the last one POPWHNLOTO  ("Pop when lotto") The Passion of People Who Have No Life of Their Own.

2.  But, you are right, in that whatever "it" is, the popular view of "it" tends to be a least common denonminator.  I found it curious and wryly amusing that my Article about Mary Reibey was rejected by the Editor.  Then, I posted it to the Entrepreneur Forum where it was ignored.  Yet, off the cuff quips get Atlases, even as Mary languishes on the banks of the Hawkesbury.  I know no way around that.  If anyone attempts to impose their "editorial judgment," they create less of a product.  As an editor myself, I have yet to reject any work.  Maybe I  just have been lucky. 

3. "Activism" does not interest me.  Perhaps we simply use the word in different ways.  Witnessing for Reason, passing out leaflets in support of Microsoft, picketing the local Federal Bldg. against taxes, and writing letters to the editor in support of romantic art are all of limited value.  I believe that the people who are attracted to the ideas of Objectivism and the works of Ayn Rand tend to be a self-selected special subset.  This is not for "everyone."   Getting to that one or another special person does require continuously "broadcasting the signal." 
        But what signal is that? Do we, like Cato the Elder, have to end every observation with the same message: "Read Atlas Shrugged."  Perhaps so. I have mentioned the class I am taking in Law Enforcement Ethics.  These are black-and-white moralists, every one of them.  The only problem is that of the 25, there are 25 different "blacks" and "whites."  After the third presentation on police corruption, I said that if the police did not have to enforce victimless crime laws against drugs and gambling, there would be less corruption.  (I failed to say, "... so read Atlas Shrugged.")  Some people agreed; others did not. People have ideas of their own, at least, thinking people do.  If what you wanted was "activism" then more stories of your own successful proselytizing ("How I made my friend, Bill, an Objectivist") might have sparked others. 
JR: "We've created widespread recognition of the SOLO name.  SOLO has achieved status as one of the "big three" Objectivist organizations.  We've created an archive of over 1500 articles, with over 175 authors.  Membership is well over 2000.  We have a very open forum where people are free to voice their own ideas.  We've attracted some exceptional people."

The secret to Galt's Motor was "do nothing." 

"We... we... we..."?  Don't you mean "You... you... you..."?  Robert Malcom's "Trading" and "Taking" essays are outstanding.  I came here for "Sense of Life" Objectivism.  The Food Forum was symbolic of that.  I don't care about food, personally.  I think it is a waste of time and effort.  But I appreciate people who do love enjoying the living daylights out of themselves -- and the Food forum exemplified that.  "We" helped put The Incredibles in Newsweek. That is an example of the value in "entertainment activism."  SOLO has been an important part of my working day.  Writing here was a choice I made.  I paid myself $100 for the original placement of "Mary Reibey." I can write for other venues.  I choose to write here because I value what I read here.

I look forward to the next incarnation.
Thanks, again, for all the fish.

(Edited by Michael E. Marotta on 11/27, 7:20pm)


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Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 7:21pmSanction this postReply
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Michael M-
I've sanctioned every post here, because I figured "what the hell" and those that have posted so far I've enjoyed very much on SOLOHQ, but you're post in particular I wish I could sanction twice, because it was well said and you drove to the heart of many points.

As for my own feelings about this, I'm still mulling them over.  Plus I just got married this weekend, and well...SOLO hasn't been THAT important, so I've been away enjoying other things. ;)


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Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 7:41pmSanction this postReply
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Congrats, Jody!

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Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 7:56pmSanction this postReply
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Ohhhh game over man.


See you out there in the 'verse peeps. This is where I get off. Ciao baby.

 

http://rick.orcon.net.nz

(Edited by Rick Giles on 11/27, 8:03pm)


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Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 7:59pmSanction this postReply
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I have a question: Is the present SOLOHQ going to be preserved as in an accessible archive? There are a lot of articles and threads I'd still like to read. Also, if everything just disappears, I'll have much less incentive to write and post on the Internet. The original Atlantis is gone, for instance. I have another question: Am I the only non-new member still being moderated? Heh.

--Brant


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Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 8:26pmSanction this postReply
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Jody,life is good, enjoy it to the fullest with your beautiful wife Lydia.
Auguro a voi le cose piu belle di questo mondo!Ciao.


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Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 8:36pmSanction this postReply
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Joe and Linz,

The past year since I found SOLO has been very interesting. I've met the best of the best, found new friends, explored ideas I previously wasn't able to explore, changed my mind about a few things. I am a better person with renewed confidence. I look forward to the future and I thank all of the people of solo for the experience of solo in it's present iteration. Many people worked very hard, I know. I have been willing to pay for the experience if you would have asked. No hard feelings for anything and best wishes for all future enterprises.

Is it possible to offer a set of CD's of solo articles and the solo archives? I have forgotten all of the articles that I would have liked to save and it looks like there is not enough time to search for them.

Best regards,
Mike Erickson

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Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 8:41pmSanction this postReply
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Before the lights go off here at solo I would like my friends to sign my guest book on my site
at cirosnypizza.homestead.com/  it means a lot to me!
Ciao.


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Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 9:03pmSanction this postReply
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You don't have to frantically try to save all the articles you'll want to read later. Probably all will be on one, the other, or both of the new sites.

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Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 8:49pmSanction this postReply
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Dang!! I've spent the last couple of weeks surfing this site and learning my way around. I thought I found a new home on the net:). I finally signed up last night. Now it's changing....lol. Such is life.

Actually I'm excited to see what lies ahead from you guys as I've already learned so much from this site.

Thanks to all.

Looking to the future.....


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