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Saturday, April 9, 2005 - 4:49amSanction this postReply
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This rule, "Sunday equals sports. It is like the full moon or the changing of the tides. Let it be."
 
Luke, I gave up my rights to all the other rules in exchange for the inviolability of the above one.  
 
George



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Saturday, April 9, 2005 - 7:21amSanction this postReply
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Luke, your chauvinistic behaviour as of late is appalling. Why must you keep adding fuel to the fire?

If you guys hate women that much want us out of Solo, say so directly. Enough is enough.


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Saturday, April 9, 2005 - 7:34amSanction this postReply
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Kat, perhaps you need to read the original "context setting" joke about the female rules here:

http://www.pickandsend.com/jh/gender/7.htm

Now that you have read it, does my joke make more sense?

I recall a secretary at work having a large color poster of the "rules for women" over her desk.  That such a joke sold well enough to warrant marketable posters informs me of its wide appeal among women.

In fact, to practice the art of context-keeping, I just now rewrote the joke to include the female rules -- and I even placed them first!  Who could ask for more?

(Edited by Luther Setzer on 4/09, 7:54am)


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Saturday, April 9, 2005 - 9:29amSanction this postReply
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Luke,

Your obsession with this topic says a lot about yourself. Frankly, it doesn't reflect well on your part.

 

Years ago when I was still in college, Dr. Yuan T Lee came to our school and gave a general talk right after he had won the Nobel Prize in Chemistry in 1986. I still remembers what he said about his wife: they had known each other since middle school and Dr. Lee said that his wife was a lot smarter than him, because she’s the one who always got better grades! Only later that she decided to take a supporting role to his career and to spend more time for their family.

 

Over the years, I’ve heard many outstanding people talking about women in their lives in a similar way. It may or may not have much to do with who the women really are, but it says a lot about the character of these extraordinary men. And this is a quality I value very much in men.

 

I can tell you that any smart and intelligent women will only run as far away as possible from you if you ever mention those dumbest "rules" to them.

 

So, get a grip of yourself. Be a real man.

 






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Saturday, April 9, 2005 - 9:46amSanction this postReply
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Luke, in case you are wondering, that was a hard left hook to the body Hong just threw. I hear say that her overhand right is just as deadly.

George


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Saturday, April 9, 2005 - 10:02amSanction this postReply
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Hong wrote:
Your obsession with this topic says a lot about yourself. Frankly, it doesn't reflect well on your part.
Well, I thought it was funny, and that is all that really matters to me.
So, get a grip of yourself. Be a real man.
I am one, thank you very much.


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Saturday, April 9, 2005 - 10:14amSanction this postReply
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George you are wrong. That was a jab, which stuns, stings, and gets one off balance. The left hook is yet to come. There will be no recovering from that.

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Saturday, April 9, 2005 - 11:33amSanction this postReply
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Repeated attempts
at misogynistic- . . . . . ------->
toned banter.
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Repeated
blowing-up . . . . -------> Search of belief window for faulty premise.
in face.
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Belief window
contains: 'Hong will not
necessarily kick
my ass for this.' . . . . . . -------> Is this beleif serving me well?
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Saturday, April 9, 2005 - 11:45amSanction this postReply
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Your obsession with this topic says a lot about yourself. Frankly, it doesn't reflect well on your part.
Luke, I'm not sure you are getting it yet. Normally, I would find the humor in jokes like this, but recently Solo  seems to be engaging in the battle of the sexes. Your timing is way off with this and therefore, it is not very funny. It's pathetic. Both sides.
 
Call it woman's intuition or whatever, but I am sensing a lot of resentment toward women around here, and you are not the only one.  It has been seen on several threads. I don't know what happened to you, maybe you are having marital problems or something. Maybe its just a lousy sense of humor. I don't really know. But these jokes certainly don't reflect the objectivist value of individualism and they pander to negative gender stereotypes.
 
The fact that they are coming from you, the club guy who is trying to bring objectivists together all over the world, makes a very bad impression. If this stuff was coming from George, I would not have an issue. The thing that bothers me the most is that I think of you as a good friend and sort of a mentor. I am telling you this stuff because I respect you. Please consider what Hong and I have said to you here. Peace.

 



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Saturday, April 9, 2005 - 11:49amSanction this postReply
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Jon, to correct your post, here are some useful principles on my Belief Window:
  • Every individual is completely responsible for managing his or her own emotional states.
  • I accept no responsibility for managing the emotions of others.
  • I value Liberty more highly than I value Friendship.
This article has earned me three Atlas sanctions.  If a few people "blow up" at it, so what?  I search for net value.

Yes, my Belief Window has served me well here.


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Saturday, April 9, 2005 - 12:08pmSanction this postReply
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Three Atlas points!
Well, never mind my interruption, then.
You obviously know what you’re doing.

Jon

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Saturday, April 9, 2005 - 12:30pmSanction this postReply
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Kat wrote:
The fact that they are coming from you, the Club guy who is trying to bring Objectivists together all over the world, makes a very bad impression. If this stuff was coming from George, I would not have an issue. The thing that bothers me the most is that I think of you as a good friend and sort of a mentor. I am telling you this stuff because I respect you.
I sanctioned your considerate reply.

Let me reiterate that I greatly appreciate your willingness to serve as SOLO Illinois Coordinator.  The same goes to all the other SOLO Local Club Coordinators.  I respect people willing to act on  their convictions and not just to talk about them.

With your responsibility as Coordinator comes commensurate authority.  This means you get great leeway in how you decide to promote SOLO Local Clubs in your state.  If you see a need or have a desire to push the envelope, push it!  I do it and it works.  This liberty to push the envelope, absent in other Objectivist forums, draws me to SOLO.  It has already yielded tangible payoffs as the recent SOLO growth statistics demonstrate.

Please excuse me now while I enjoy a snack on leftovers from my lunch at Hooters today.

(Edited by Luther Setzer on 4/09, 12:49pm)


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Saturday, April 9, 2005 - 12:38pmSanction this postReply
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Luther said:
I accept no responsibility for managing the emotions of others.
I assume this means that you accept no credit either.
This article has earned me three Atlas sanctions.
So you earn positive responses, but are not responsible for negative ones?  Do I have that right?


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Saturday, April 9, 2005 - 12:39pmSanction this postReply
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It seems that a sense of humor has gone out the window on this thread.  I thought both sets of jokes were hilarious.

Lighten up, people.


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Saturday, April 9, 2005 - 12:42pmSanction this postReply
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Was this posted as under humour? Hang on while I curry favor by saying bad Luke bad boy.

It was a JOKE.
(Edited by John Newnham
on 4/09, 12:44pm)


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Saturday, April 9, 2005 - 12:44pmSanction this postReply
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John asked:
Was this posted as under humour?
Yes, it was.  Evidently some people lack a sense of humor.  Thankfully, Jennifer has retained her sense of humor.


(Edited by Luther Setzer on 4/09, 12:47pm)


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Saturday, April 9, 2005 - 12:46pmSanction this postReply
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Glenn asked:
So you earn positive responses, but are not responsible for negative ones?  Do I have that right?
Exactly, and yes, you have that right.  In fact, the SOLO sanctioning system recognizes this natural law.  Read "Unsanctioning Unsanctioning" to learn more.


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Saturday, April 9, 2005 - 12:56pmSanction this postReply
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Luther,
You totally misunderstood my last post (at least the part you commented on).  But, I don't care.  Just be sure to put it in the negative column when determining net value.

Glenn


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Saturday, April 9, 2005 - 1:08pmSanction this postReply
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Glenn wrote:
You totally misunderstood my last post.
I understood its negative connotation.  I simply executed my ingrained habit of turning adversity into opportunity which I learned from Napoleon Hill:

"Within every adversity there is a seed of a greater benefit."

Thank you for helping me to do this.  For more information on this mindset, read "Are You a Wussbag?"

(Edited by Luther Setzer on 4/09, 1:09pm)


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Saturday, April 9, 2005 - 1:11pmSanction this postReply
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I second Jennifer.

Jesus Christ ladies! Loosen up.

I always believed that I might be okay in the afterlife because I would think God has a sense of humor -- if he exists, and if he's a he. Cause if he's a she, I'm fucked.

Alec


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