| | I may simply disagree with your view of women. I agree that some women have irrational barriers, but I think NLP may bypass the barriers and reason. How do people use reason when they make these decisions? Can you give any evidence that women use reason at all?
I would have to study Jeffries' teachings to discover where I'd draw the line, but I definitely think it's morally wrong to make a concerted effort to re-program someone's subconscious. I do sometimes call NLP "hacking the subconscious." The fact is that the natural seducers already do this without making a concerted effort. They just aren't aware of what they do. Some of the schools of seduction have reverse engineered what the natural seducers do. Then they teach other men how they can do it.
I do like the technique you used to get Tony to settle down. I was really fed up with him. During this particular week, I changed hotels because the Best Western had outside entrances (which he didn't like). On a previous week together, he changed hotels because the Hampton Inn didn't have a refrigerator in the room after he had asked me to make reservations for both of us. The only hotel he did like just happened to be over our per diem rate. I felt like I was dealing with a little kid. It wouldn't have been a problem if we hadn't been sharing a rental car.
I wouldn't disagree with such techniques being applied to women, depending on the purpose. It's the use of "weasel phrases" that I find most objectionable. I would guess that people use them all the time, without understanding their impact. I remember a story an NLP health guru told us. It was about a guy in an office. A bunch of people asked him: "Are you feeling alright?" By noon or so, he went home sick. These people had hypnotized him.
Last November, I met Amanda at a party. She took my phone number and called me a week later. I'm not sure why, looking back. She told me she was sick. I actually patterned her on the phone--one in which I used the sun's energy for a man's energy. I also took her back to the time she had spent in New Zealand, getting her to imagine swimming under a waterfall. After about 40 minues, I could tell she felt a lot better. I never heard from her again, but was pretty proud of that phone call.
However, I was never a person who deserved or could've even handled a relationship. I wasn't confident, for one, and sometimes I even wanted the girl for bad reasons. Sometimes you may not even know the reasons why you want a girl, and I don't think that's necessarily bad. I remember liking Avril Lavigne when her first song came out. I didn't know why I liked her--I just did. Then I learned more about her and rationalized. But attraction and wanting to spend your life with someone are two different things. Attraction is what makes you want to learn more.
That's the reason for inducing states in a woman. It's so she will give me a chance. If she LJBF's me, I have no chance. You always want to make sure she is looking at you as a potential lover.
My buddy Denice likes Nine Inch Nails. She's been in my life for nine years. As a result, I am more interested in any woman who likes Nine Inch Nails.
working on social skill. How is this different from using weasel phrases and embedded commands? Almost all "social skills" are bull manure. I have always been skeptical of anyone who has good "social skills."
As far as sexual encounters go, I don't even want to have sex that's outside the context of a relationship, as a rule. Ross believes that if you don't sexualize it early, then you won't get the relationship. You don't have to have sex with the woman. You just have to make her want to have sex with you. Make her prove that she deserves it.
There may be certain exceptions, but I think that the level of physical sexual interaction should be commensurate with the level of mental/spiritual connection. I think women develop these after sex. If you don't sexualize it, the mental and spiritual connection may never come.
One pattern I would have loved to have used on Ana, the girl at Gold's Gym, was what I call the "favorite teacher" pattern. I haven't used it, but it works on the theory that every girl or woman was in love with at least one teacher. Basically I would get her to talk about her favorite teacher and get her into a state of passion about him. Then I would anchor those feelings to me. That never happened unfortunately, because we could never get rapport.
Ross Jeffries would at least make you aware of some of the things that you may be doing that sabotage yourself.
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A 'nice' man only knows how to be agreeable. He doesn't know how to challenge women and he can't or won't set the lead. And he filters everything he says through the belief that women are fragile little flowers who need to handled with OH so much care lest they be broken. YUUCH. One more thing: women don't trust his communication because he just won't dare say anything that might offend them. Now a pleasant man is something quite different: pleasant is power, held in proper restraint and exercised with precision and elegance. A pleasant man will speak his mind, set the lead, but he also knows how to listen and show the proper degree of interest and respect. He may put himself first, but he also genuinely cares for and cares about his woman (or women). They are of great importance to him as long as they treat him right and work within the rules that he has made very clear. Most important: his world is his own. He never, NEVER makes the WOMAN his world, around which he orbits. He does allow her to come into his world and occasionally even be at the center WITH him.
