Neo-tech, Starship, & Illuminati

The best explanation of the Illuminati comes from The Illuminatus! Trilogy by Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson. The three books are The Eye in the Pyramid, The Golden Apple, and Leviathan. I recommend them highly as entertainment. Read them, but not to the exclusion of anything really important. Used bookstores often have them for a dollar each, which is about right. They are perfect literary comic books for the libertarian thinker.

In Illuminatus!: Basically, a hapless policeman falls upon a ritualistic slaying and in investigating it, he discovers a wild set of interlocking grand conspiracies -- the Masons, the Jesuits, the Nazis, many more -- fighting for control of the world. We are their pawns.

In Illuminatus!: One logical extreme of the Enlightenment is a world of perfect order -- a New World Order based on man-made reason, where freedom is impossible, under the sign of the Eye in the Pyramid. (The Communists are one example; the perfectly planned society.) One logical extreme of romanticism is a world of total chaos, anarchy run amok, where destruction for its own sake is all that exists. (The Nazis are an example: think Goetterdaemmerung.) Between and within these extremes are groups and individuals claiming to be the true inheritors of either or both.

In Illuminatus!: Alcohol is the drug of the anti-mind. Marijuana is the drug of consciousness expansion. Alcohol makes you cut off all your hair so that you resemble the lizard-like priest-god mutants of Atlantis. Marijuana makes you grow your hair so that you resemble the Yeti, the last of the genetically true Atlanteans.

(The struggle goes on all around us. NASA -- originally staffed from Peenemunde -- named a space shuttle Atlantis. Why was that? Are they promoting Reason or Instinct? Do they tout freedom or control? That's not in the books. I just added that, based on my reading.)

I once met a rightwing populist who said that Ayn Rand had been the mistress of Leonard E. Read (and probably also Clarence B. Carson, if not Henry Ford, as well). He said that Atlas Shrugged was a blueprint for the ruling class to destroy the world and then take over from the ashes. Of course, I replied that Atlas Shrugged was a blueprint for individual freedom. Remember the old Certs commercial? "Two mints in one!"

Another thread is found in Principia Discordia: Or, How I Found the Goddess and What I Did to Her When I Found Her: The Magnum Opiate of Malaclypse the Younger, wherein is explained everything... That book was originally written in the office of Jim Garrison, the New Orleans prosecutor who attempted an independent investigation of the John Kennedy assassination. One of the characters in Illuminatus! is the Dealy Lama.

This stuff will make your head spin, and the world will never look the same, sort of like alcohol, or maybe like marijuana, or maybe like Atlas Shrugged.

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Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 11:01pm

I did a little research on the Illuminati last year when I was living in Seattle before (it's supposed to be a hot bed out there) and learned about the so-called connection between the Federal Reserve and the Illuminati. Given Greenspan's connection to Objectivism, it wasn't a far leap to connect Rand to the Illuminati. If you're into that sort of thing...Of course, the Illuminati was started by the Jews. Or the Nazis. Or both. It was started by a dialectical duel of thesis-antithesis in which the enlightened ones would manipulate the outcome. The current head of the Illuminati is non other than our own Chris Sciabbara! (He's not called "diabolical" for nothing, ya know...).

Anyone who has any curiosity about the Illuminati, save yourself the trouble. Or go straight to its logical conclusion, the books by David Icke, who argues that the Illuminati are really space aliens that are remarkably similar to the lizards in the series V, and that George Bush Sr. is really a lizard who likes to feast on young children (especially pasty redheads.)

The truth is out there...somewhere...not there...
(Edited by Joe Maurone
on 5/17, 11:04pm)

(Edited by Joe Maurone
on 5/18, 8:31am)

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Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 11:03pm

Then there's the movie - "National Treasure', which really gives the run for the mysteries.......

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Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 10:02am

Joe Maurone wrote: "... the Illuminati are really space aliens that are remarkably similar to the lizards in the series V ..."

Well, it is pretty easy to make a few more pieces fit the puzzle now. This ties in with my "Stupid Design" theory of creationist science. (Basically: Earth has been messed with.) So, the dinosaurs were seeded here by the lizard aliens who mutated fish into amphibians that would evolve into reptiles to rule the planet ... but! ... mammal aliens created little rodentoids and let them loose and then hit Earth with an asteroid to kill the dinosaurs... and here we are!

It all seems so clear now.

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Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 7:24pm

It seems I did not finish the job with post 19. Ah well... at least I know where you all live...

Just kidding folks.

Don't panic!
- Douglas Adams

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Thursday, October 6, 2005 - 9:33am

     What a coincidence that I just happen to be near finishing Rule by Conspiracy by Jim Marrs (sub-noted on cover: "Author of Alien Agenda." That should say something!) The book was loaned to moi by a co-worker who seems a bit into this stuff. The strange thing is he's an Amer-Indian with functional ties to a local tribe. Go figure.

      Anyways, it really is fascinating with all the detailed...uh...'history' of the Templars, Merovingians, Hospitalers, Priory of Sion, Jacobins, as well as the standards, the Masons, Rosicrucians, Illuminati, TLC (no, not The Learning Channel...I don't think...hmmm), etc. Even drags in Moses and the Vatican, culminating in the recently studied texts of Sumer (here, the Annunnaki replace Scientology's Thetans. Wonder if Hubbard was up on any of this stuff?)

      Reminds me of trying to get through Umberto Eco's Foucalt's Pendulum, my 1st intro to 'conspiracy theories.' Whew.

      In it's own way, it is fascinating, to see how so many spurious 'connections' can be argued about using the terms 'associated to', 'obviously influenced', 'uncoincidentally close enough to meet', nevermind our mainstream TV news-casters favorite 'links/linked.'

      What I find frustrating is, I just know that there's some 'history' in this stuff that we rarely run into elsewhere, but jeez, with no way of separating wheat from chaff, all your head does is just spin (from all the spin given, I guess) trying to keep track of all the (otherwise historically established...as having existed) groups and people.

      I'm suspecting that the Boy Scouts (they still got that 'secret handshake', right?) are really the group controlling all. After all, they are Christian, right? AND, they're NEVER mentioned ! If that isn't a 'tip-off', well...Hiding right in front of everyone! (Think Poe's Purloined Letter.) How cunningly (hmmm....'diabolically'?) genius.

      I think on the other hand, I better stop reading this stuff.

LLAP
J:D

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Thursday, October 6, 2005 - 11:21am

Marotta, I've got a copy of Illuminatus!, and you've described it perfectly: it's brain candy for libertarians. Some of the cultural references are a bit dated, like Hagbard Celine's yellow submarine (though Celine could be a parody of Ragnar Danneskjold).

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Thursday, October 6, 2005 - 4:00pm

Well, Dan Brown used the Illuminati in his best-selling book "Illuminati", although it was only half-truth, it stated several basic ideas about the Illuminati.

They are an organisation of scientists, or at least, enlightened men and women, who tried to escape the harsh rule of the church. Also, it might have been a fun association for important people (something like a country club), that isn't settled well.
The Illuminati seem to be something like the Prieurs of Science. They used english language rather than latin (which was the official language of the catholic church) and tried to destroy the church by any means. There are many famous men thought to be connected to the Illuminati: Benini, Goethe, da Vinci. Brother's Grimm, Galileo among others. However, there is nothing definite, besides the fact that they existed.

Often, the Illuminati are used as a conspiracy theory in modern pop-literature as a invisible power beyond imagination.
It is also said that they are affiliated with other "secret societies" like the free-masons and such. A popular movie (From Hell), linked them with Jack the Ripper...

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Thursday, October 6, 2005 - 4:25pm