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Monday, March 28, 2005 - 6:56pmSanction this postReply
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Oh, Philip, I just realized that you are telling me that there are now a Chinese version of "Anthem". I will look it up. Thanks!

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Monday, March 28, 2005 - 7:59pmSanction this postReply
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I was totally absorbed in your story from beginning to end. That is good writing. Do not worry about whether you are a writer or not. Just write, if you feel like it.
I never thought of myself as a writer, but I received great encouragement from Barbara, so I decided to give it a try. My first article, "Because You Speak To Me", was written last April. Now you can't stop me with an elephant gun.

I would love to hear about what you experienced in China. I would love to know what people in China thought about Nixon's first visit, and how perceptions of the west started to change. I bet you have thousands of interesting things to share with us. So I will now pass on the favor that Barbara did for me;

You are very intelligent and very interesting. I gently tap both shoulders with my sword. You are now a writer.

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Monday, March 28, 2005 - 10:48pmSanction this postReply
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Hong,

This is an exceptionally moving article, thank you for posting about your experiences. And as several previous posters have pointed out: based on this article you ARE a very good writer :-)

MH


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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 12:22pmSanction this postReply
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Micheal FD, Kelly, Bob, and MH,
I am glad you didn't find this boring or out-dated. Even many young Chinese people today don't really know what really happened before. Remembrance of the past is not encouraged in today's China.


James,
I bet you have thousands of interesting things to share with us.
It's me who is so lucky to find you guys here whom I can share those things with. I have never been able to do that all these years...
 I gently tap both shoulders with my sword. You are now a writer.
Now I am speechless.


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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 12:26pmSanction this postReply
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Hong,

Er... ahem... are you aware that you can keep a writing pad in the kitchen too?

Just a suggestion...

Michael


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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 12:28pmSanction this postReply
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I get the impression that remembering the past in this country is not encouraged either.....

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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 12:31pmSanction this postReply
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Michael dear, thank you for the invitation. But I figure that with the kitten and Jon the Tender One, the kitchen has already become mighty crowded...

(Edited by Hong Zhang on 3/29, 3:58pm)


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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 6:40pmSanction this postReply
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Hong, I was very impressed with your article. I'm almost inspired to write something as well one of these days.

Keep 'em coming girlfriend!

BTW...The Tender One is not in the kitchen anymore. He didn't want to cough up the cash for the pay-per-view.  ; )

(Edited by katdaddy on 3/29, 6:44pm)


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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 7:54pmSanction this postReply
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Well, kat, in that case,...well, I've never refused a sistah before...

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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 9:12pmSanction this postReply
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Hong, your article was fascinating and compelling, and I agree with the others who say they'd like to hear more. And I, too, would like to hear from Adam. There are a lot of books available on life under dictatorship, but when one knows you and Adam, and knows a little of the beauty inside you both, the events take on an even greater meaning.

You wrote: "The world as I now remember it was an ugly and suffocating one and I was starving spiritually, emotionally, and physically."

You echo Ayn Rand here. She told me that she often thought, while in Russia, that she could bear the poverty, the constant fear, the privation of her life -- but what she felt she could not bear was the endless ugliness -- the ugliness of life, of people reduced to thinking of nothing more than where they would get their next potatoes,

I have always hated Nazism, but perhaps never so passionately as when a friend, a German concentration camp survivor, told me a part of his story. I had once asked him why he had chosen to come to California from Europe, and he had answered, "I didn't want to see snow." Quite a while later, it struck me that that was an odd way to put it; he hadn't said he didn't like the cold, or snow -- he'd said he didn't want to SEE snow. So finally, I asked him why he felt that way. I shall never forget his answer.

He said that just before the end of the war, he had been part of the "death march" from one camp to another. The Nazis were trying to keep ahead of the Russians, and so were moving their victims. The weather was bitterly cold, the path they took lined with high snow drifts. The inmates, exhausted, freezing, starved, most without shoes or coats, kept falling as they walked; other inmates tried to help them, but the Nazi guards forbade it; instead, they shot the fallen. "You see," my friend said, "as we walked and people kept falling and shots kept ringing out, I saw great streaks of blood forming across the snow drifts. Since then, I cannot look at snow without seeing them."


Barbara

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Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 5:47amSanction this postReply
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Thank you, Barbara, for relating this story. 

Even though recounts of these horrible conditions and injustices bring tears to my eyes, it's absolutely vital that these are not forgotten and lost in the passing of the years.  The events of such lives need to be kept alive, in the consciousness of as many people as posible, currently living and future as well. 

Jason


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Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 7:11amSanction this postReply
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Barbara,

Thank you very much for your kind words. You always have great ability to empathize with others' suffering.

 

When I said "The world as I now remember it was an ugly and suffocating one and I was starving spiritually, emotionally, and physically." I was strongly biased toward my understanding today. You see, for many years until after I had my own child, I had always thought that I had a relatively care-free and happy childhood. Nothing really physically bad had happened to me. I didn't realize that I was deprived because I had never known what else could be there.

 
I've recently finished reading your biography of Rand. What a magnificent book about a magnificent person! I can very much relate to Rand experience, although our paths of intellectual development are quite different. Rand had a more or less normal childhood before Communism crushed in on her, and she couldn't bear it. I was born into the system and did not realize of any alternatives. It was only after Tiananmen Square Massacre in 1989, that I finally reached the point that I could not bear it any more. Your description of Ayn's journey to the American was so vivid and moving, it is almost like you were describing my own journey to the American - the details are different, but the emotions are the same.
 



(Edited by Hong Zhang on 3/30, 7:26am)


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Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 9:08amSanction this postReply
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Beautiful story, Hong. Touching and moving. Your hard-line socialist and non-Western upbringing and experiences also educate and provide insight. A wonderful article.

You write:

There were so many incidents of people getting in trouble simply for expressing normal feelings on certain small things in life. I did not, and could not, express any of these “normal” human emotions, such as delight in the beauty of nature, affection for loved ones, or sorrow for the loss of precious things. These “bourgeois sentiments” were considered dangerous because they could erode our revolutionary resolution. 

....The world as I now remember it was an ugly and suffocating one and I was starving spiritually, emotionally, and physically.



This is why I reject the isolationism of Ayn Rand, most Objectivists, the American Founding Fathers, and most strong Western thinkers. It's exasperatingly infuriatingly true, of course, that practically every time the West intervenes abroad in order to "liberate" some nation in tyranny or agony the West almost unerringly shoots itself in the foot, and ends up causing more dictatorship and pain, both abroad and domestically. Still, this attempt at rescue, human solidarity, and social nobility is the right thing to do. Someone has to stand up for the 7-year-old Hong Zhangs of the world. Anything else is inhuman.


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Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 9:07amSanction this postReply
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Dear Hong Zhang,

As someone who has written one Randian novel based on the nature of man's creative spirit, and another novel set among Chinese escapees in 1986, I would love for you to expand upon two items in your wonderful piece:

1) "These “bourgeois sentiments” were considered dangerous because they could erode our revolutionary resolution."
I am interested to learn more about the threat that love and passion poses to the totalitarian state.  I believe that anything with the power to captivate a person's mind (ideas, love, Falun Gong) threatens the state's ability to captivate and control people's minds.  What are your thoughts on this?
 
2) "I also think of my parents’ generation, many of them have forever lost their ability to think on their own and the ability to express any genuine feelings with their own words."
In my research for book #2, I uncovered the Chinese phrase "stuffed duckling," as it pertains to their education system.  "Stuffing little ducklings (students) full of information, but never taught to think for themselves."  Could you please expand upon your statement that people of your parents' generation have lost their ability to think or express feelings?  How does that manifest itself?  What do you think its causes are?  Any details you can provide of actual experiences with this phenomenon will be greatly instructive.
 
Thank you for writing your article, and thank you for any answers you can provide.


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Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 6:11pmSanction this postReply
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Andre,

Appreciate very much your comments. I share your moral stand against totalitarian regimes. However, practically, I don’t know what would be the best political approaches to prevent tyranny and atrocity. In many cases foreign interventions just don’t work. The intend to reform has to rise from the people within. I think we should learn a lot from the collapse of East European Communist countries. In any event, to quote Mao here, “sacrifices are inevitable for any revolution”. Nothing is easy.

 

 

(Edited by Hong Zhang on 3/30, 6:15pm)


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Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 7:03pmSanction this postReply
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Mr. H or whoever you are, since I obviously never read your novels and don't know about your knowledge of Communism, I am  not sure that I get your first question. In those days, we could only love, passionately, the State, the People, and Chairman Mao. Love anything or anyone else would be disloyal, and not compatible with Communist morality.

 

As to your second question, it has nothing to do with “stuffing duck”. When one has, for several decades, witnessed waves upon waves of persecution, torture, and killing of individuals who ever dared to voice his own thoughts and opinions; when one saw that one’s own family members, friends, teachers, colleagues had lost their head left and right, one’s brain was then re-wired by the sheer brutal force of the terror. That, plus a total block out of information flow, are what I think has happened with my parents.





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Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 8:23pmSanction this postReply
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Andre and Hong- there is quite a divide among Objectivists on how America should relate to the world. My opinion on this has changed considerably since 9/11. Rand said that it wasn't our moral duty to save the world, and although I agree with that, my feelings lean strongly toward yours, Andre. I have always been quicker to want to intervene against authoritarian regimes wordwide than Rand was. Since 9/11, I think we need to realize that countries that at one time might have been seen by some as only terrorizing their own inhabitants (not to be overlooked in my way of thinking, anyway), now are, by their nature and the power of modern science, a direct threat to the United States. I will have an article on America's great presidents in the fight for freedom coming out shortly, and I hope you get a chance to read it. I want to start a discussion on where America should go during the 21st century and hope you will share your thoughts on the threads that result, as you both have much to say that brings a fresh perspective.

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Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 1:46pmSanction this postReply
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Hi Hong,

 

I am terribly honored that something I had said inspired you to write such a wonderful piece. Though at first glance your style might seem dry and impersonal the scenes you describe convey a nuanced and passionate intensity that is emotionally rewarding to read.

 

Michael


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Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 6:35pmSanction this postReply
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Michael,
Your comments are pretty much in line with what I myself think about my writing. I am a scientist after all. When I write research papers, if I have novel and unambiguous results, the only thing I need to do is to describe and present them clearly, and to make logical interpretations. The result itself will be attractive enough. I think I may have the same attitude toward non-scientific writing.
 
Hong


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Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 9:22amSanction this postReply
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I just saw this, which I missed at the time it was written!

Wow! Pretty amazing story, Hong! And very well presented, especially since English is not your native language.

We Westerners, who were raised in a relatively free society, have no idea what growing up under Mao's regime was like. We've been told it was bad, of course. But personal stories like yours can go a long way towards making it real for us.

I love this kind of autobiographical account by people who have experienced Communism firsthand and in a culture, like that of China's, that differs so greatly from ours.

Have you ever thought of writing a full-length book about your experiences growing up in Communist China and of your transition to an entirely different kind of society in the West?

Back in the early '80's, when I worked in a research lab for eye disease, I met a visiting doctor from China, who had come here to study our research methods. She found living here very difficult, because she expected to be told what to do in virtually every aspect of her daily life. Yet no one was giving her orders or telling her how to live. As a result, she had trouble making her own decisions.

In addition, she was so astonished by American technology that she thought we must have machines enabling us to do everything under the sun. I remember her telling me that if she lost a button, she expected there to be a "button-finding machine."

Her spoken English was poor and difficult to understand, but I can recall her correcting my grammar at one point in our conversation. I'll never forget that! I think I said something like, "He is taller than me," to which she replied, shouldn't it be, "He is taller than I"? I never made that mistake again! :)

Today, the young students from China attending my university are very Westernized and very, very bright -- although some still have sympathies for Communism, believe it or not!

- Bill


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