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Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 3:44amSanction this postReply
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Hmmmm - this must be one of the things Hong was referring to as happening while my pc crashed.... wow - go away for some fun, and the world turns upside down........ maybe someone can e-mail me and clue me in to what all else I missed...

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Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 6:29amSanction this postReply
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Damn, my master plan of planting M. Elmore and ruthlessly destroying SOLOHomo failed. I'll get you next time, my pretties. I'll get you, Linz, and your little dog too...

(Just trying to add some humor to all this ugliness)

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Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 7:46pmSanction this postReply
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Thanks, Steven, for filling me in...glad I own a pair of hipwaders.......

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Monday, June 27, 2005 - 11:24amSanction this postReply
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Who is/was Elmore?

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Monday, June 27, 2005 - 12:58pmSanction this postReply
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El more you know, el less you'll want to know...

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Monday, June 27, 2005 - 1:00pmSanction this postReply
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Too much Num++ LOL

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Monday, June 27, 2005 - 1:24pmSanction this postReply
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Dang, num++ you stole my line....... :-)


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Monday, June 27, 2005 - 2:24pmSanction this postReply
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I'll steal another one in response to Robert:

"Whose line is it anyway?"
-Drew Carey

[gotta love that show...]


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Monday, June 27, 2005 - 8:39pmSanction this postReply
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Yes - that was one funny, and very inventive show.....loved it myself....

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Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 8:44pmSanction this postReply
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1. The Elmore / moderation stuff:

I've been away from the computer for nearly a week and have barely checked Solo, so I hope people have not been endlessly 'masticating' and failing to let die this incredibly silly tempest in a teapot.

Forgive me if I'm repeating anything already said in the last week (haven't had time to read the past posts), but:

Of the list of overreactions, the one by the people -leaving- Solo from David E. to anyone married to him or his friends in solidarity (Jennifer? Jason?) because of something this trivial, silly, and minor is by far the one most unreasonable of any of the players.  It's (almost) on the level of: "I'm going to take my ball and not play and give up any related values because someone insulted me or disrespected me or my friend. And on top of which I'm never going to speak to you again."

2. Linz as editor / "there is a lot of dross in [the article queue] that I'm going to clean out":

I'm glad to see this.  Jason didn't have enough of a track record yet to judge fully, but there were a number of pointless or poor waste-of-my-time-in-reading-them articles the last month or so, while under Linz the quality of articles was kept extremely high... an extremely important issue if Solo is to keep faithful readers and to maintain a reputation for quality.  Quality matters.

Phil Coates

(I think I've already posted enough on subject #1, so if anyone still disagrees with the above, my condolences.)

(Edited by Philip Coates on 6/28, 8:46pm)


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Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 9:07pmSanction this postReply
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I agree with you on both points, Phil. The only problem with Linz-as-editor however is that Linz-the-writer makes less of an appearance.

Finding an editor to replace him -- a good editor -- is crucial IMHO to get Linz back into the article queue himelf.

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Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 10:03pmSanction this postReply
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Well, I dropped the hint. Any takers?

Linz

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Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 10:32pmSanction this postReply
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"Of the list of overreactions, the one by the people -leaving- Solo from David E. to anyone married to him or his friends in solidarity (Jennifer? Jason?) because of something this trivial, silly, and minor is by far the one most unreasonable of any of the players.  It's (almost) on the level of: 'I'm going to take my ball and not play and give up any related values because someone insulted me or disrespected me or my friend. And on top of which I'm never going to speak to you again.'"

Interesting, is it not, that this is posted by someone who, not that long ago, threatened to cancel his (then) forthcoming appearance at the SOLO conference in Newport Beach, because Linz almost kicked a SOLOist off the list for comparing John Cage favorably with Mario Lanza?  I recall thinking as I read Phil's threats back then that he seemed to me (almost) "on the level of: 'I'm going to take my ball and not play and give up any related values because someone insulted me or disrespected me or my friend. And on top of which I'm never going to speak to you again.'"

JR



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Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 10:48pmSanction this postReply
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Jeff,

That's called the Prerogative of the Trichotomy Dialectic.

//;-)

Michael

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Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 5:15amSanction this postReply
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MSK quipped:
That's called the Prerogative of the Trichotomy Dialectic.
Damn it!  Now Chris Sciabarra will have to release a new edition of Ayn Rand: The Russian Radical to show how she extended the Russian dialectic tradition to a new, Objectivist trialectic tradition!


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Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 7:54pmSanction this postReply
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"This is posted by someone who, not that long ago, threatened to cancel his (then) forthcoming appearance at the SOLO conference " [Jeff]  "That's called the Prerogative of the Trichotomy Dialectic." [Michael]

Jeff and Mike, please never equate "similar" things without comparing context.  In that case:

1. Linz actually did kick someone out of Solo* (Michael Newberry), not moderate them (which simply means their posts are reviewed before posting, as is normal in a 'moderated forum'). 

2. They didn't do anything wrong, simply disagreed with him on esthetics.  The difference is that between having a forum open to any opinion and a forum open to any insult.

Phil
*until he cooled down and reversed himself


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Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 8:30pmSanction this postReply
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I thought this by Phil:

"Of the list of overreactions, the one by the people -leaving- Solo from David E. to anyone married to him or his friends in solidarity (Jennifer? Jason?) because of something this trivial, silly, and minor is by far the one most unreasonable of any of the players.  It's (almost) on the level of: 'I'm going to take my ball and not play and give up any related values because someone insulted me or disrespected me or my friend. And on top of which I'm never going to speak to you again.'"

... was one of the best perspectives on this whole brouhaha. It's the same point re perspective I anticipated in my post that caused such offence. How the hell anyone could have abandoned everything that SOLO offers on the strength of this one blow-up, stemming from one solitary jerk being placed under moderation, is, to use Diabolical's term from another context, "beyond baffling."

But ... there you go, & there they went.

Linz

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Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 8:30pmSanction this postReply
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Phil: "Jeff and Mike, please never equate 'similar' things. . . ."

I didn't "equate" anything.  I compared two recent situations, by noting their similarities.  Learn the difference between equate and compare.

Phil: " The difference is that between having a forum open to any opinion and a forum open to any insult."

Duh!  An insult is an opinion.

JR



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Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 10:46pmSanction this postReply
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Phil,
Jeff and Mike, please never equate...
Good God! You're not saying I agree with Jeff? Not that! Anything but that!

Arrrrgggggg!!!

That was a damn joke!

//;-)

Michael


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