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Post 60

Friday, September 24, 2004 - 8:26amSanction this postReply
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Staying on the topic, "Moving On":

There's an article on the Web related to this thread:

The Philosopher-Hero:

A teacher, a leader, a protector,
and a simple man of calm intensity;
A gentleman of Truth, Courage, and Honor;

A man in touch, and at peace, with himself and the world;

A poet who speaks of Harmony, Wholeness, Integrity, Justice, Freedom;

(A martial artist who overcomes forces of wickedness and stupidity with his mindful, effortlessly-graceful Shaolin counter-force.)

No one who meets him remains unchanged.
He moves people to rise above the circumstance that traps them,

To regain the vision of life as
Benevolence, Enchantment, and Adventure.


Above are slightly-edited words that Monart Pon wrote as part of a thread that was discussing the seventies series, "Kung Fu." I was moved to create a textual object from them that was attractive enough to be hung as a small "poster," and I confess that it was my hope that Monart would want to re-post it to Starship in its new form (though he was not aware of that desire). I am pleased that he has decided to share it at-large via the Web. I was moved to, in a manner of speaking, "enshrine" his words because, if one suspended speaking about the individual, Caine, by taking out direct references to him, and then changed the past tenses to present (present perfect?), one obtained a portrait of a very fine human being. I can vouch for this because I know such a man: A man who fits every word (he is not a martial artist, but he is eminently capable of taking care of himself), and to whom I silently dedicated the textual object that I was creating from my friend Monart's words. And, since I know this man, I know that these words are possible for real people, not for fictional characters only. If I knew Monart better, I'd probably find that I would say that I know two such men; for in order for Monart to have written his description in the first place, he would have to have an understanding of that of which he speaks. (And Monart probably knows some martial arts; but you'd have to ask him;-)

My goal for this object was to remove those words from a context in which they could easily have become lost forever; to pull them out and place them where they could be a motivation, an encouragement, and a statement of idealism. I am realist enough to know that we are not all capable of filling this bill, entirely. Not all of us are suited to be teachers or leaders. Some would have difficulty being protectors, and we certainly are not all gifted with the art of poetry. But I think that the remainder is within all our reaches. I think it is an embodiment of much that is Objectivist and much that is Starship, and it is certainly worth striving for in any case. Thank you, Monart.

Sincerely,
Mary-Ann Agri
USA 2002
Jan 9, 2002

[Artilce from: http://www.starshipaurora.com/ssphilosopherhero.html ]

Post 61

Friday, September 24, 2004 - 8:32amSanction this postReply
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Still on the topic of "Moving On':


How to feed a fiery spirit? How to keep it high?

From: _The Orator_ by Peter Zarlenga

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Speak the truth in harmony with beauty moving humanity to freedom.

Freedom is the child of beauty in love with truth.

The love of truth is the spirit of man.

Justice is truth in action creating beauty.

Beauty is being in harmony with what you are.

To be beautiful, be true to yourself.

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We are free. Our freedom is to move at will, to be effective, to live, to create order from chaos, to achieve perfection, to conceive and create, to imagine and enact, to dream and to fulfill our dreams, to be and become what we want to be.

The way to achieve this great aim is to concentrate the magnificent power of your mind on the fulfillment of the love of your spirit. When you do this you will create an intense beam of power so pure it will reach the furthest star.

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The purpose of life is to be what you are and to become what you could be. To seek to create excellence in whatever you choose to do. To do what is right. To practice principles. To create order from chaos. To think and act upon your thought. To be real, right, good, and true. To choose to cause your own change. To identify, simplify, concentrate, and move. To fight for freedom, justice, truth, beauty, achievement, and joy.

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Hold your ground defending yourself, living for yourself, respecting yourself, being yourself. Set fire to your spirit, soar aloft, become what you could be.

Put your will into action and realize the reality of reality. Bring the value of your spirit into being. Have the courage to create yourself from your own thought and action. Trust your own mind to identity what is true. Act upon the truth.

Act upon the truth and you will create order. Your order will create energy. Your energy will create movement. Your movement will create achievement. Your achievement will create joy. Your joy will create love. Your love will create goodwill. Your goodwill will create justice, freedom, truth, and beauty. It can be done. You can do it.
---

From _The Orator_ by Peter Nivio Zarlenga
©Copyright 1977 Peter Nivio Zarlenga
NY, BOOKS IN FOCUS

Excerpted by Monart Pon

Forwarded from: http://www.starshipaurora.com/sswords.html

Post 62

Friday, September 24, 2004 - 8:34amSanction this postReply
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Actually, Mr. Pon, we have stayed on the topic.

Post 63

Friday, September 24, 2004 - 8:36amSanction this postReply
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Still moving on:

[Who is "I"? A man or a woman? Who is "we"?

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Love to Love

I love to love you, see you, know you, touch you.

I love to have you, kiss you, full in the flesh.

I love to hold you tight and spread you wide, open,
without fear or pain or shame.

I love going deep, deep into you, with wonder and yearning,
moving hard and fast, smooth and straight, into your soul.

I love to drive you wild, to the ends of your endurance and beyond,
where you burst apart, trembling, swept over by relentless waves
of unending joy and irresistible ecstasy.

I love to love you, now, here, all ways, forever.

I love to love you.

You love to love me.

You love to love me, see me, know me, touch me.

You love to have me, kiss me, full in the flesh.

You love to hold me tight and, wide open, let me in,
without fear or pain or shame.

You love me coming deep, deep into you, with wonder and yearning,
moving hard and fast, smooth and straight, my soul to your soul.

You love me driving you wild, to the ends of our endurance and beyond,
where I burst forth, unstoppable, powered by relentless waves
of unending joy and irresistible ecstasy.

You love to love me, now, here, all ways, forever.

You love to love me.

I love to love you.

We, love to love.

~ * ~
Monart

Copyright 2001 Monart Pon

http://www.starshipaurora.com/lovetolove.html

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Friday, September 24, 2004 - 8:40amSanction this postReply
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[Who are "we"? We are...]

The lovers.
The lovers who seek sacred romance,
who yearn for the ecstasy created
by the united, relentless striving for mutual recognition,
for reciprocity, release, and rejuvenation.
The lovers who seek the synchronized, integrated movement
to penetrate and envelope the sublime:
to charge up the polarized energy ...
to reach the threshold of transcendence ...
to unleash the life-renewing, life-expanding power
that re-affirms and re-centers
the holy being of true love.
The lovers.

~ * ~
Monart Pon
Copyright 2001 Monart Pon

http://www.starshipaurora.com/sswords.html

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Friday, September 24, 2004 - 8:59amSanction this postReply
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Life moving on:

[Ayn Rand: "Words are a lens to focus one's mind."]

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HUMAN LIFE:

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To Be ... To Become

To be ...
to find to fix
to give to get
to will to do
to see to know
to make to feel...

To become ...
to laugh to cry
to sing to moan
to shout to sigh
to smile to frown
to awe to fear
to bear to kill
to grow to shrink
to win to lose
to love to hate
to live to die
to go to stop
to rise to fall
to be to be not
to become to begone
To be Light to be Night...

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Love Making Light Being Felt

Loving the Feeling
of Making the Doing
of Knowing the Seeing
of Being Becoming
the Beauty of Truth in
Being the Light.

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I woke up this Morning
I met the Golden Dawn
I saw the Pure Light
I did the New Thing
I felt the Next Day
I grew Up

I feel you around me
moving with me
coming with me
loving with me
being with me
becoming We

Being Light
Making Love

Willing in
loving the feeling
of making the beauty
of truth in being
the light of becoming.

---

Night, Be Light

To see yet not to know
To know yet not to make
To make yet not to feel
To feel yet not be real
Is really not to be.

Hope grows from deed, not need.
If you don't do the deed,
you're hopeless and in need.

Make it, don't fake it.

Honesty is being true to reality.
Justice is being good to truth.
Courage is being real to beauty.

Achievement is beauty made from truth.
Joy is love made from being real good.

Justice measures the wealth of creation
and mirrors the void of destruction
guarding the freedom
to discover truth
create beauty
exchange joy
bring light.


Night, be Light

Forgive yourself:
For Change
Give Chance

It's harder than you think,
but easier than you feel,
and easier when you do think

Think clearly to feel deeply.
Feel deeply to think clearly.

There are things that can only be thought about,
things that can only be talked about,
and things that can only be written about, but
there are things that can only be done.

Allow fear to be found and felt, but not loved.

Be informed to perform and transform.

Be Night or Be Light
Drift on in darkness
or light up your life

Life is cosmos out of chaos, movement aimed at itself.

To live, be true, all through

Night, be Light

---

The infinity of ideals made finite and real

Aim of Will
Action of Mind
Achievement of Body

Dignified Honor of Truth
Concentrated Power of Goodness
Radiated Glory of Beauty

The infinite all of glory
in one finite shape
in one integrated body
in one unified soul
in one clear word
in one shining love
in one temple
in One

---

The art of making the feeling of seeing the beauty of truth in being the light

---

Have

finitude to the infinity of ideals
shape to the formlessness of dreams
singularity to the plurality of values
unity to the multiplicity of desires
concreteness to the abstractness of thought
direction to the randomness of movement
fortitude to the hardships of life
certainty to the chances of victory

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Philosophy of Enlightenment

The Love of Truth and the Being of Light

Philosophy
Knowing of Truth
Doing of Goodness
Making of Beauty

Knowing of Truth
Being of Being
Knowing of Being
Feeling of Being

Doing of Goodness
Being of Knowing
Knowing of Doing
Feeling of Making

Making of Beauty
Being of Doing
Knowing of Making
Feeling of Becoming

Being of Light
Feeling of Beauty
Loving of Truth
Being the Light

Love Making Light Being Felt

---

Being

Seeing Willing Knowing
Doing Making Feeling
Loving Becoming Light

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Human Being Becoming Heroic

The Light of Being

Knowing and Seeing
Knowing and Feeling
Knowing and Making

The Being of Light

Making and Knowing
Making and Doing
Making and Being

Heroic Becoming Being Human

---

Feeling the Making of Knowing Being
Becoming the Knowing of Making Feeling

Being free to know truth
Being rational to do good
Being joyous to love beauty

Being the Light

---
Copyright 1985 Monart Pon

Excerpted from:
http://www.starshipaurora.com/starshipbeinglight.html

Post 66

Friday, September 24, 2004 - 9:21amSanction this postReply
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ok, back to the topic of sexy conference planning.

Have the conference anywhere you want. I will be there. Chicago sounds great. And Scott can lead us to a dive bar, where all those who went to bed at 10pm in Philadelphia can win redemption for their previous lameness. Seriously, people - rest up! None of this jetlag bullshit.

And please, wherever it is, get Tim Sturm there. Woof! (I'm only thinking of Jennifer, of course, as I have my own super hot hottie at home.)


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Friday, September 24, 2004 - 10:19amSanction this postReply
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Oh my god, does that mean I have a monopoly?  Don't you threaten me with a good time.  ;)

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Friday, September 24, 2004 - 10:04amSanction this postReply
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Ralph Waldo Emerson once said "No great nation dies except by suicide." So too any great organization. The potential banning of the Stolyarovs and Firehammers of the world is a grave injustice which insideously perniciously undermines and menaces the entire entity.

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Friday, September 24, 2004 - 10:55amSanction this postReply
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Looks like you do have a monopoly Jennifer, now that Ash is accounted for (he said through gritted teeth, kicking himself repeatedly).

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Friday, September 24, 2004 - 3:58pmSanction this postReply
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Bless the free market. 

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Friday, September 24, 2004 - 4:56pmSanction this postReply
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Ralph Waldo Emerson once said "No great nation dies except by suicide." So too any great organization. The potential banning of the Stolyarovs and Firehammers of the world is a grave injustice which insideously perniciously undermines and menaces the entire entity.

Insidiously perniciously undermines and meances the entire entity? Andre, there is a chance, just a chance mind you - and an outside one at that - that your statement above might just be a tiny wee little bit over the top.

George






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Monday, September 27, 2004 - 9:43amSanction this postReply
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Andre says:

"Ralph Waldo Emerson once said "No great nation dies except by suicide." So too any great organization. The potential banning of the Stolyarovs and Firehammers of the world is a grave injustice which insideously perniciously undermines and menaces the entire entity."

I think this post really underscores the dangerousness of forcing a meaning upon a word.

They aren't banned, are they? Just moderated. I do not agree with moderating Firehammer, but perhaps Stolyarov. But this is not my organization, I just benefit from it. Joe and Linz can do as they please.

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Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 1:16amSanction this postReply
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Here is a copy of a message I sent to OWL, where apparently there's been some discussion of SOLO. I sent it in response to a message Ash had sent them & then forwarded to me. Both messages appear below.

Scott, dearest - I find it ironic that you say *maybe* the moderation of Stolyarov is justified, when you once *left* SOLO because it didn't ban Stolyarov outright!! Jesus H. Christ! The *fickleness* of folk!! Make up your bloody mind!

Galt give me strength!

Sheesh!

Phew!

:-)

Linz

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I don't know what has been claimed on OWL other than what I've read in Ash's note below. No one has been banned from SOLOHQ. Three or four people have been placed under moderation. It is the prerogative of SOLO's owners to ban, moderate or allow unimpeded access as we see fit. I've no idea what part of that proposition any Objectivist would not understand or would not agree with. As it happens, SOLO is extremely liberal. Free-flowing, robust debate is part of its raison d'etre. Always has been, always will be. Sometimes, would-be hijackers, wreckers & knaves with alien agendas will be reined in. Big deal. Some folk need to get over it.

Linz

> From: Ashley Frazier
> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 21:34:57 -0400
> To: OWL
> Subject: Re: OWL: "The Risk of Freedom"
>
>
> I have been a member of this forum for a long time, and have enjoyed the
> debate here immensely, albeit without posting myself. However, I now feel
> that I must speak up in defense of Lindsay Perigo and the SOLOHQ web site.
> Monart Pon writes that Reginald Firehammer was "effectively banned from
> SOLOHQ", which Regi also claimed. I wish to clarify this. Reginald
> Firehammer was placed under moderation at the SOLOHQ website, which meant
> that his posts needed to be approved before posting. While it is true that
> he was moved from a status of unrestricted posting to a status of needing
> to have posts approved, it is a mischaracterization to claim that he was
> "banned."
>
> Thank you,
> Ashley Frazier
>
>
>


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Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 9:14amSanction this postReply
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Well, Linz, allow me to retort (after I have a bite of your tasty burger and a drink of your delicious beverage). Accepting articles for publication and moderation status are two different things. To some degree, all published articles are 'moderated' in that they are screened for content. So, once they go up, to some degree, someone of import in SOLO saw some merit in them. I had my cry-baby hissy-fit over Stoly because his stuff was, to me, obviously not Objectivism, in fact, a perversion of O'ism, and he was a world class evader when you confronted him on it. So, my hissy was over accepting such articles and giving them the glowing lovely sheen of SOLO-acceptance, disclaimer notwithstanding.

Moderation, as I understand it, has to do with the ability to freely comment on others' articles. True, the guy would write a book in response to anything, but his nonsense does alot less damage in comments than on the front page.

There's my distinction. I'm standing by it. Don't get me wrong, I don't miss him (Stoly) one whit. But as I have said repeatedly, you haven't banned anyone--just decided, as owner, when you've had enough. Entirely your prerogative. Sir. I cannot deny that, even after reading all of Regi's posts (but not his book) it did seem like his position was a bit of a moving target. That may not be 100% honesty.

I'm really looking forward to the new issue of the FreeRad!

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Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 9:44amSanction this postReply
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Linz:

I saw your post on OWL but never my own. Maybe I am BANNED from OWL!!!!!!

(just kidding, stay calm everyone)

xo ash

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Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 1:55pmSanction this postReply
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I understand that the OWL list, on which Regi and Monart have apparently been whimpering, is itself moderated.

I believe this is known as irony.


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Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 9:42pmSanction this postReply
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Beautiful intelligent women indirectly talking about sex is the pinnacle of sex appeal in my opinion.  Way to get me all worked up ladies!  LoL

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Friday, October 1, 2004 - 5:20amSanction this postReply
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Jake -- I thought we were being pretty direct.  ;)

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Friday, October 1, 2004 - 5:40amSanction this postReply
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I suppose so.  That's even better.  :)

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