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Post 80

Monday, May 15, 2006 - 9:23amSanction this postReply
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Dear Hong, related to your question:

In the late 70's, the Soviet and Iranian Communists (with some help from the EUrowinnies) joined the Khomeinists --Shia Islamists-- in their efforts to overthrow the Sha of Persia, who was (correctly) perceived as a pro-American ruler.

Today, it is happening similarly: all stripes of Islamo-fascists and the global Left are joining their efforts against America, Civilization, and its values.

In this respect, you may find this site enlightening:

http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/default.asp

Regards

Joel Català

(Edited by Joel Català on 5/15, 9:29am)


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Post 81

Monday, May 15, 2006 - 9:46amSanction this postReply
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Joel, thanks for the link. I am interested enough in the Chomsky phenomenon and will definitely read the article. Isn't it striking that Chomsky is a consistent double self-hater - he hates both Jews and America. 

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Monday, May 15, 2006 - 9:56amSanction this postReply
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 Isn't it striking that Chomsky is a consistent double self-hater - he hates both Jews and America. 
Self-hate is one of the possible outcomes of moral breakdown.

Taking a global perspective, the values of America and the values of Judaism are pretty similar --e.g., you may find a thorough description of that phenomenon in this article, from the historian Rav Ken Spiro.

Joel Català



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Monday, May 15, 2006 - 11:10amSanction this postReply
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Hi John,

No I don't mind that you posted it, I was going to clean it up and refine it a bit and submit it as an article here anyway. 

Hong said:

Thank you, Michael Dickey, for your compassionate article. The sentiment expressed in your article filled my heart and I literally had lumps in my chest. And thanks John for posting it.
Thank you Hong, it was reading all the personalized accounts of these tragedies, like the ones you have posted here, that make me able to write such things.  The fact that what I wrote affected someone who has experienced directly some of the attrocities committed by communism in the way it has you really means a lot to me.

- Michael


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Monday, May 15, 2006 - 7:35pmSanction this postReply
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Hong said:

"What I don't understand is: where such hatred of America come from?!"

It is an issue of character. A decent person feels admiration and inspiration when witnessing greatness. A different sort of person feels defeat, resentment and ultimately hatred.

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Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 3:05pmSanction this postReply
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I would like to express thanks for the posts of Mike Hardesty, Scott Stephens, and Aaron on this thread. In particular, Mike Hardesty's grasp of history is impressive and sweeping, to say the least. Even his poetry is not that terrible.

If pro-war state objectivists like Kurt were to invest an honest reading of revisionist history--especially about WWII which serves as a model for all subsequent American military adventures--I think they would have a difficult time maintaining their enthusiasm for US involvement in that tragedy, and perhaps for subsequent crusades. Bad history is a toxic brew, because it encourages intoxicated believers to sustain misconceptions about ethics, economics, and politics. I write this with no disrepect intended; I know Kurt and others fervently believe that they stand for what is right.
 
However, if one were to accept uncritically the orthodox distorted history of the early industrial revolution--of capitalist sweatshops, and exploited child labor, and wage slaves, and greed run amuck--one would be hard-pressed to justify support for capitalism. How could one support a social system that promoted human suffering and injustice?

Similarly, pro-war conservatives accept uncritically the court history of American war-making and foreign policy, seemingly without troubling themselves about stubborn facts that prove the sanitized official account misleading. Such stubborn facts include, for example, abundant proof that Hitler's territorial ambitions were to the East; that FDR offered illegal assurances to the British and French on about three occassions in 1938-1939 that Americans would be fighting by their side if they chose to engage Germany; that Hitler offered peaceful accomodation to Britain on several occasions prior to and following Dunkirk which Churchill spurned; and that Pearl Harbor was anything but a surprise to FDR and his cabal.

Thanks again to Mike for his numerous refernces to history books that sound like worthwhile reading.


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