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How Much Work Does Objectivism Face?

The following is a clip from the French version of "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire?". The question, for those who don't speak French, is: "Which of these is in orbit around the Earth?" The four choices are: the Moon, the Sun, Mars, or Venus. This clip is scary for numerous reasons: 1. He isn't confident enough to answer the question on his... (Read More)

(Added by Scott Cram on 1/05, 12:04pm)

Discuss this Joke (37 messages)

Friday, January 12, 2007 - 5:48pm

Somebody, get that thing a Kleenex!
Eeew.

Sunday, January 14, 2007 - 4:28am

The entrails of the queen's nest as seen from below in any of the even numbered alien movies. I find it kinda neat, but not art, and certainly no good reason to remove the pendulum. Obviously the pet project of a directeur with a captive audience, typical of any bureaucrat.

Sunday, January 14, 2007 - 8:45am

Something that "would require the type of language I do not like to see in print."

Monday, January 15, 2007 - 7:06am

Is that the "language of fractal geometry?"

:)

Monday, January 15, 2007 - 7:11am

Does the work of H R Giger (of which this "installation" reminds me) count as art? Here is Giger's "communion."

Monday, January 15, 2007 - 9:39am

I would say it is art, Ted - not Objectivist art for sure! He did a lot of work on the original Alien, and anyone trying to do horror would do well to use his work - that is surely what it brings to mind. He is kind of the HP Lovecraft of the art world.

Monday, January 15, 2007 - 12:58pm

He is kind of the HP Lovecraft of the art world.

Well said - his is the human hating view of aesthetics....

Monday, January 15, 2007 - 4:48pm

Were he to restrict himself to making abstract designs and alien life-forms, I would find him less disturbing. But I do find his style elegant. I agree with the immoral implications of his work as is. There is a leather bar in Germany (land of the scat-flim) named after him. This is telling. He actually did some work based on the Lord of The Rings. Other than the fact that the pieces so inspired are green, rather than metallic, I doubt Tolkien would haved approved...

(Edited by Ted Keer
on 1/15, 4:51pm)

Monday, January 15, 2007 - 4:54pm

BTW Lovecraft's bookcovers of the Ballantine editions are favorite subjects of Graffiti artists in NYC. For a long time there was a several story wall at the corner of 200th St and Sherman Avenue in upper Manhattan that was either a copy of or directly inspired by one of those covers.

Monday, January 15, 2007 - 8:39pm

Why am I not surprised........

Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 9:46am

I read Lovecraft and I did like his books, but I can't say I recommend them. I only liked them because they, as art, were actually able to do what "horror" is supposed to do. Reading them was like reading and immersing yourself in a nightmare. So if that is what you want, it does the job. I don't want to do that any longer, but you know the adolescent male phase of being fascinated with horror, satanism, all that stuff? I never took it to any silly extremes but I explored the ideas and did some reading before I got out of it. To me it was a part of the whole fantasy RPG stuff I was into (D&D) and a good source of ideas and concepts of evil.

Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 10:04pm

Lovecraft is good as an artist since he sets the mood very concretely and achieves his aim without having bloody corpses spring up throuh trap doors. I enjoyed "at the mountains of madness" and there was a short story about a house where the walls never met at riht angles and there was something "wrong" about the corners of the rooms. I read this as a school kid home sick, and feverishly watched in horror the corners of my own attic bedroom. Very visceral, to use the same word twice in one day. I have never seen a good adaptation of his work to the screen, and can't say I really care too. Horror has a very minor valid place especially for juveniles since it empowers one over spooky stuff. I am not ashamed to have enjoyed him, but I would be leary of someone who was a huge obsessed fan.

Kurt,

If you liked Lovecraft, I can recommend Colin Wislon's Mind Parasites with some reservation. I believe I reviewed it here somewhere. If you want the review I will see if I can find the text on my hard drive.

Ted

Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 1:39pm

Thanks but I don't really want to read that sort of fiction any longer. I do like Military Sci-Fi right now the best - I like John Ringo and David Weber. I can't say they are the best authors, but I like them for simple reading pleasure.

Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 9:13pm

The Mind Parasites isn't actually horror, but Lovecraft plays a part. His stories are shown to be a subconscious awareness of an actual alien influence which is dealt with (pseudo-)scientifically. I'd just recommend looking at it if you come accross it. It suffers from the primacy ofd consciousness fallacy, but is entertaining nonetheless.

Ted

Friday, January 19, 2007 - 9:46am

The Philosopher's Stone is another version of that he wrote..... and, actually, a better version....
(Edited by robert malcom on 1/19, 9:51am)

Friday, January 19, 2007 - 4:29pm

Robet, you a refering to a book by Colin Wilson?

Friday, January 19, 2007 - 7:30pm

Yes......

It was published in 1969, two years after The Mind Parasites....

(Edited by robert malcom on 1/19, 7:33pm)