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Friday, January 23, 2009 - 12:43pmSanction this postReply
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You guys are all focused on the wrong things here and making this issue much harder than it needs to be. To avoid heart attacks, the best medicine is An eyeful a day keeps the doctor away. Now that's a cardiovascular program that I can endorse. :-)

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Friday, January 23, 2009 - 2:43pmSanction this postReply
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Just so people don't get too carried away with Jeff's suggestion...

http://www.snopes.com/humor/iftrue/breasts.asp

Jordan


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Friday, January 23, 2009 - 3:39pmSanction this postReply
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Damn! :-(

Don't tell my wife!

BTW, that reminds me of another study my wife brought to my attention years ago that showed that married men live longer than unmarried ones. I told he that I didn't know if it was true or not, but it certainly felt like it was a lot longer! That's when she threw something at me. :-)

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(Edited by C. Jeffery Small on 1/23, 3:47pm)


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Friday, January 23, 2009 - 3:41pmSanction this postReply
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Your wife has a problem with you looking at her breasts, Jeff?

(Luke, this is the sort of thing I was talking about.)

(Edited by Ted Keer on 1/23, 4:03pm)


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Friday, January 23, 2009 - 3:46pmSanction this postReply
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Ted, you sure like to live dangerously.

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Friday, January 23, 2009 - 6:31pmSanction this postReply
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    "Your wife has a problem with you looking at her breasts, Jeff?"

My wife is very committed to making sure that I don't have a heart attack!

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Friday, January 23, 2009 - 7:23pmSanction this postReply
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I'm sorry, but there's just nothing I can say in mixed company. I keep thinking of the scene in A Clockwork Orange where they demonstrate the effectiveness of the aversion therapy with the model on the stage.

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Friday, January 23, 2009 - 10:13pmSanction this postReply
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Jeff,

"My wife is very committed to making sure that I don't have a heart attack!"

Mine too! My wife gave me a Concept 2 rower for Christmas! I've rowed about 50,000 meters since Christmas. God, I'm so tired...

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Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 4:39amSanction this postReply
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Ahhhhhhhhh - ye finally made it across the English Channel, huh... ;-)

[used to have a rowing machine - was great relaxation device, as got rid of a lot of tension... unfortunately, no room in this place for it, so had to get rid of it [well, lasted 20 years, so did good time]... am thinking maybe a bow-flex be good...

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Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 10:21amSanction this postReply
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Robert,

The Concept 2 can store upright and fits under an 8' ceiling so takes up far less space than a bowflex and I think costs much less. I also do Mark Rippetoe's "Starting Strength" barbell workouts three days a week interspersed with rowing. I'm rehabbing a couple of injuries for a few months then plan on going back to crossfit (diablocrossfit.com) maybe in the spring. I absolutely LOVE the rower. I believe free weights and full range functional movements are the only way to go for strength training but you must go light until you can execute the form perfectly. Rippetoe's book "Starting Strength" is the best way to learn perfect form. Crossfit is the best functional fitness protocol ever devised. Scalable for anyone, any age. I already have my spectator tickets for all three days of the crossfit games in Aramos, California in July.

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Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 8:50pmSanction this postReply
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Sam,

There are two amino acids that appear to be beneficial for people with congestive heart failure: Taurine and L-Carnitine (or Acetyl-L-Carnitine). For the benefits of Taurine, see:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1538580

L-Carnitine works by reducing muscle apoptosis (cell suicide) through actions on gene expression and on apoptosis-related proteins or cytokines. Congestive heart failure is associated with myopathy (death of heart muscle cells, often due to apoptosis). L-carnitine increases gene expression of Bcl-2 protein and reduces gene expression of caspases, thereby reducing apoptosis. Chronic inflammation associated with heart failure leads to high levels of the cytokine Tumor Necrosis Factor-alpha (TNF−α), which promotes apoptosis. L-carnitine results in reduced serum TNF−α levels [American Journal of Physiology, Cell Physiology; Vescovo,G; 283:C802-C810 (2002)].

- Bill




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Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 9:09pmSanction this postReply
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For those of you who don't know Mike Erickson, here's a guy who's 60 years old and has the physical fitness of a 30 year old. I hope Mike doesn't mind my saying so, but he was once able to do 5 -- that's FIVE -- one armed chin ups. He's still pretty darn strong. But 5 one-arm chins is, well, spectacular!

- Bill

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Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 9:11pmSanction this postReply
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Go Mike!

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Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 9:40pmSanction this postReply
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Holy Crap!

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Monday, January 26, 2009 - 12:51amSanction this postReply
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I do not follow this fitness area closely, so I don't know if this is new or old news, but this evening on 60 minutes, there was a story about a chemical called Resveratrol that is found naturally in the skin of grapes, that researchers believe may make it possible to trigger a gene in humans that will retard many of the ill effects of aging and allow individuals that take large doses in pill form, to forestall diabetes, heart attacks, Alzheimer's, etc. and allow for active lives well in to the 90's. The effect is the same as being achieved by people who basically starve themselves, which has proven to extend a healthy life. Human studies are underway and the researcher indicated that this may be on the market within five years. The link above will take you to the story.

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Monday, January 26, 2009 - 4:03amSanction this postReply
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I found this interesting - http://www.frankcovino.com/ - his book Rage Against Age...

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Monday, January 26, 2009 - 9:00amSanction this postReply
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"physical fitness of a 30-year old"

arghh...if it were only true.

Jeff,
"it possible to trigger a gene in humans that will retard many of the ill effects of aging"

I believe high intensity exercise accomplishes this. But an optimized diet is very important.

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Monday, January 26, 2009 - 1:02pmSanction this postReply
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Ah - that's celery and peanut butter, right? ;-)
[along with the vitamin pills ;-)]

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Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 12:30amSanction this postReply
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Jeff,

Resveratrol is already on the market. You can get it in any health-food store. The problem is it's stability in pill form. There is some question as to how stable it is and therefore how effective the pills actually are. If that problem can be solved and the manufacturer can guarantee the supplement's stability, you've got a great life-extension supplement. I used to take it, but when questions about its stability surfaced, I stopped taking it. I haven't researched the latest products though. Maybe the stuff that's now on the market is fairly stable. I just don't know.

- Bill

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Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 7:04amSanction this postReply
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A big issue here is the wildly-popular smart-bomb (aka "silver bullet") approach vs. the more-comprehensive cluster bomb approach.

Linear thinkers often like to think that there's one magic (or independently powerful) compound in food and that it does it's magic (exerts its power) in isolation or otherwise as not one part of a broad metabolic symphony. It turns out the resveratrol is poorly absorbed, but who cares? Chromium is poorly absorbed -- and chromium is a "real" silver bullet for at least half of folks with type 2 diabetes. So much so that it is dangerous to continue orthodox diabetes care while adding chromium. The highest absorption folks get from chromium is 2% (98% of what is swallowed is eliminated).

It would be dishonest for a company -- or for your doctor -- to say that there's this big problem with chromium pills, that they're a waste of money and that that because, by-and-large, pass right through you. They do, but that's normal because it's normal to absorb only 2%, and that minority-of-the-dose -- that 2% which gets absorbed -- may turn your glycemic control around.

My advice is to eat at least 3 differently-colored vegetables a day. Five different colors each day would be better. The colors indicate the polyphenolic phytonutrients (phytochemicals like resveratrol). They work together. Choosing the very best one may harm you if it leads to you avoiding all the rest -- just like a conductor could ruin a symphony by having only his best violin player play a solo, for the whole orchestra.

Ed

(Edited by Ed Thompson on 1/27, 7:05am)


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