Your crowd doesn't appear to be an example of exhuberant living from this end. The left side appears to be more like a funeral than an example of Ayn's great example.
Anyway, I live near Juno Beach and am thinking about hiking up to your little group with some of my friends one of these days although who wants to hear about Von Mises? Why not talk about Rand and her books? What about Barbara Branden's book? Have you discussed it yet?
Which one are you in the picture? I hope you guys are not mummy Objectivists!
I shared your message with our core group. As a club that has convened regularly since 1999, with the posted photos more than 10 years old already, we found it amusing. Several members noted gaping holes in your "logic" but you will need to attend a live event to learn what they are. We will more than happily direct you toward clearer ways of thinking if your mind actually has the honesty and your soul the selfishness to accept such direction.
While you ponder our response, kindly refer to our attached club brochure to understand our approach to implementing Ayn Rand's philosophy for living on Earth.
We shall see what happens.
Luke Setzer Club Coordinator, RoR Florida Coordinator
I first attended Leonard Peikoff's Basic Principles of Objectivism class in 1995 at ARI, and thus your patronizing and superior tone was not necessary. I see you are threatened by any challenge to what you are doing so I am sure we would not be compatible. By the way, if you assumed I was a novice, why would you use the word "selfish" when we all know the societal meaning of the word describes mean, abusive, and violent behavior? A novice would understand the word in that context and would conceptualize something very different from what Ayn Rand meant. Perhaps the "gaping holes in logic" applies more to you than to little old me.
Very good hook to your advertisement and a splendid message, but your reality can't live up to what you are advertising. A fundamental rule of successful advertising is living up to what you are promising, and regretfully, you can't do that.
This sounds like a person to add to my "Blocked Senders" list.
If you know any RoR member who loooooooves people with enough benevolence to see past these communication problems into the soul of the interlocuter, please encourage that person to step to the plate as a club coordinator.
Luke Setzer Club Coordinator, RoR Florida Coordinator
From:"rationalgaltman@yahoo.com via backpage.com" <mail+553e9ec0@relay2.backpage.com> Date:Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 7:07 PM Subject:backpage response: Leading a Rational Life in an Irrational World...
From: rationalgaltman@yahoo.com
Why did you alienate him? He was only asking you questions?
If you can't answer his simply questions, you need to bone up on your ability to relate to others.
By the way, isn't it time you change your photo on the forum?
As is you look like Peter Keating with that ingratiating, pleasing smile instead of a hardcore Objectivist willing to fight for what he believes.
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I have a suspicion the various abuses all come from the same person. Note that the current pseudonym means "rich little vagina" in Spanish. As I have repeated elsewhere, less anonymity cultivates more civility and vice versa. Once again, others are invited to step to the plate to outperform me if they think they can.
From: panochitarica@gmail.com
You really made a fool out of yourself on Rebirth by reposting what people said to you. You came off like an incompetent with the brain power of a child. I would tell you this on the forum but I want to remain your friend, and I know once I criticize your stupidity that will be impossible.
Luke Setzer Club Coordinator, RoR Florida Coordinator
It is a sad commentary on our culture that an event advertisement must now include this disclaimer:
NOTE: Only polite and respectful inquiries from brave souls willing to identify themselves by their full names will enjoy the courtesy of a reply.
I will not bother reposting the latest missive but with an e-mail handle meaning "faggot shit" in Spanish I changed my filters to direct such responses to the appropriate folder for later forwarding to the appropriate abuse handlers.
Shortly after this latest tiff I received a notice that someone attempted to associate my personal e-mail address with a Twitter account for "glissonabie815". Fortunately, Twitter requires an e-mail confirmation of such association so I immediately clicked the "Not My Account" option. This resulted in the suspension of the offender's account on Twitter per their policy:
It's likely that another user entered your email address when signing up for a Twitter account. Or, someone may be engaging in abuse, in which case your report may help identify and remove spam from Twitter.
I doubt this is a coincidence.
Gaslighting, anyone?
There must be a truly nasty troll reading these pages.
Luke Setzer Club Coordinator, RoR Florida Coordinator
I'd drop the "Hot Russian Chick" which is the kind of language that won't help you attract women, or many of the younger crowd (and many people won't get the reference to Rand being Russian).
I'd eliminate the entire warning part that starts with "NOTE:" since it will only intrigue and encourage a troll who would just take it as a challenge, and it seems too defensive to everyone else. Instead of thinking about the good stuff in the ad, readers will find themselves wondering about who is attacking you and why. Just replace it with something like, "If you have any questions, just direct them to propelobjectivism-organizer@yahoo.com", delete troll responses and not even give them any attention.
And if you want to bring in more women, then put something after the sentence that ends: "...collectivism begone!" - something that might appeal to women, e.g.,: "It is a new world where a young woman with the right philosophy can stand as strong as any man." Or, "Who knew that philosophy could provide so much personal power, confidence and inner-serenity?"
Do you know how to fix RoR? My site is still screwed up for months. I wanted to talk to you and can't get you without doing a search for you name and talking to you via a post. Thanks if you get this and want to reply.
Mike Erickson
Luke Setzer Club Coordinator, RoR Florida Coordinator
