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Post 240

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 1:05pmSanction this postReply
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Jon Trager writes:
 
On "practically every page [there is moralizing, psychologizing, emotional repression, and intellectual bullying]"?? Come on! I do think that AR dismissed people she disagreed with too casually in some cases, but this is as wild an accusation as any about her that I've ever heard....

Further, you [Andre] should have higher standards than to associate with people who admire an individual whom you believe was such a rabid [emphasis added] moralizer, psychologizer, emotional repressor, and intellectual bully....
 
I never thought or said "rabid." Nor did Barbara Branden or Nathaniel Branden in their memoirs. Rand's guilt here is subtle, quiet, and general. But I do indeed find it profound and pervasive. Notice how there are not now, and never were, Voltairoids, Ciceroids, Democritoids or Aristoteloids?
 
Rand was pretty much a one-woman Second Renaissance. Or at least she tried to be -- and seems to have had some wild expectations of success. So she wrote like a prophet, not an intellectual. And she was far and away the most polemical philosopher in the history of mankind.
 
This may have been good in terms of the short run and creating instant popularity. But it really warped and demented her style -- and even her thinking processes. In the end, her non-fiction material needs to be rethought, reworked, and rewritten to speed up its world-wide acceptance, IMHO. 





Post 241

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 1:15pmSanction this postReply
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Laure,

You've mentioned in several threads that you have been sucked into a time warp lately. I hope it's not painful, but here is what I think is happening: As Solo winds down, in its very last day, it approaches closer and closer to the black hole of website destruction and little pieces of stuff begin to fly off. Time slows down and your body, Laure, is getting s-t-r-e-t-c-h-e-d into incredible dimensions. As I speak I am beginning to notice the effects on m...y...s...e....l...f.............Sooooooooo............b......y......e....e.e...e..e.e.e..e.....b...y.....eeeeeeeee.......,,,,,,,,,,,-------=======.......
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poof!



Post 242

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 1:39pmSanction this postReply
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James Valliant writes:

I can certainly recognize a religious mantra when it's repeated mindlessly.
His book and SOLO comments are powerful evidence to the contrary. Human psychology is likely more complex and subtle than Valliant supposes -- starting with his own. He probably desperately needs to read more Nathaniel Branden. ;-) 




Post 243

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 1:59pmSanction this postReply
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Phil,

10 hours 'til we hit the Schwartzchild radius :-).

Jim




Post 244

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 2:01pmSanction this postReply
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I was just thinking about how, what with the announcement, the true colors would come out. The claws would come out. It's human nature to get your last yah-yahs out, I suppose.

As far as Linz's personal endorsement of the dynamic duo of the Branden Inquisition, it's worthy, because Linz is worthy. But, it is not canon law. That is the difference between being a person, and a personality.

For me, James is a talent, Casey is an OK guy. True, I've never read his novels. James saw an opportunity, and he took it. There is no shame in going tabloid/academic, even for old news. I put him on par with the books written about the Tate murder. He is very good. I can hardly wait to see what he does on his next work, which on last report involves a treatment of the Bible. I expect to have a few lovely tangos with him, although, as time goes with me, I probably will end up seeing more eye-to-eye than he might expect from what I have written about religion, here-to-date.

I can tell you one thing... post 208 (which I ripped off pretty quick) received a huge amount of sanction votes. I am only mentioning that as an observer. The whole sanction vote thing is nice, and fun. There is a certain measure you can get as a writer from watching them come in, or not.

My stance remains on this. It is a tempest in a teapot. It is, as Adrian Belew once wrote in a King Crimson song (memory may make this a bit incorrect), a fleck on a flea, on the penis of an alien from outer space. It will always remain so.

Ayn Rand was where I looked to everything for many years. Every day, and often, I still do. But she is not the alpha to omega solution. It is a place on the axis. She was a treasure.

I will stand with this- Linz has never read Branden, for one. Many on that "side" have not. To those, read The Art of Living Consciously. It is a masterpiece.

Does it matter, our past indiscretions? How does it affect awareness? Even Martin Luther, farting religionist prick that he was, was a heretic in that he said to not dwell on sin. There is no goodness in it. That thought leads to forgiveness. Forgiveness leads to higher roads.

rde




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Post 245

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 2:01pmSanction this postReply
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You haven't even read PARC, have you, Andre? So we can take your comments for what they are worth.



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Post 246

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 2:47pmSanction this postReply
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Hey, Andre:

You haven't read PARC, have you? :)

Please click on the following link, have yer credik card ready: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1930754671/qid=1133390400/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-0282976-8252613?n=507846&s=books&v=glance

18.45 new, eligible for free shipping. On the other hand, used copies at around 15 bucks. Idea: ask James to autograph one for you- just think about the capitalistic reaping you can do on e-bay once you get hold of one of those!

Did I mention you haven't read PARC? Your entire world view is at stake here, buddy. Time to belly up to the bar.

Did I mention that you haven't read PARC? Recent studies show that those who haven't read PARC are more prone to various forms of cancer, not to mention questionable epistemological problems, which may or may not include frothy rectal discharge, hangnails, bad chess play, and not being fully accepted in certain trendy coffeehouses.

Andre, you haven't read PARC. This is clear from your photo. I can already see the deterioration starting. You feel tired, don't you?

Andre, you haven't read PARC. This is a book by James Valliant. You need to buy this now, or those people poised by your door with automatic weapons are not going to leave.

Andre, this is Rich. It's my last request. I'm pleading with you, Andre. I really, really need you to buy a copy of PARC, ASAP. They've killed one of my dogs, and I think they're going after the ferret now. People are in my house, Andre. Please.

Andre?

rde
Marketing Manager to The Stars




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Post 247

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 3:42pmSanction this postReply
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Casey Fahy asks:
 
You haven't even read PARC, have you, Andre?
 
Fahy sounds like a defensive Muslim, asking if someone has read the Koran. ;-)  But, yes, I've read it. A tour de force of tendentiousness and intellectual dishonesty, as I've said many times. Valliant's book makes Is Objectivism a Religion? by Albert Ellis (1968) seem almost as objective as a dictionary. Seriously.




Post 248

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 5:03pmSanction this postReply
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[duplicate time warp post deleted]

(Edited by Andre Zantonavitch on 11/30, 5:20pm)




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Post 249

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 5:13pmSanction this postReply
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Andre: Bull.




Post 250

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 5:22pmSanction this postReply
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> what with the announcement, the true colors would come out. The claws would come out. It's human nature to get your last yah-yahs out, I suppose. [Rich]

I'm saving mine until nearly midnight.

Off will come the mask. No more Mr. Civility-and-Benevolence....Tonight Evil Phil, Sicilian Phil, Vindictive Phil emerges just before the site goes down: All family business is settled tonite with the Five Families before we pack up and move to Las Vegas and take over the casino business...."do you renounce Satan and all his works?" HELL NO!!! Get outta' my face...



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Post 251

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 6:41pmSanction this postReply
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Five hours to go. Quick everybody get their licks in :-).

Jim




Post 252

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 6:16pmSanction this postReply
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Maybe if those like Andre could show some actual evidence of having read it, then the questions wouldn't be so persistent.

No substance, just more wind.



Post 253

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 8:43pmSanction this postReply
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Man, I was just wondering whatever happened to the magenta hornet.



Post 254

Thursday, December 1, 2005 - 12:22amSanction this postReply
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I think I fixed the bug on this thread.



Post 255

Thursday, December 1, 2005 - 6:29amSanction this postReply
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Yes, you did!  Thanks, Joe.  All's right with the world again.



Post 256

Thursday, December 1, 2005 - 10:39amSanction this postReply
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Andre, it's Rich again.

Look, shit's getting pretty rough around the edges over here. I'm on a $%# dialup connection, how rude is that? I ran a long extension cord over to the neighbor's house for my laptop. There's nothing but embers next door. It smells like grilled ferret.

Please, read the book over again until you get it. Buy gift copies for the holiday season.

(Edited by Rich Engle on 12/01, 10:44am)




Post 257

Thursday, December 1, 2005 - 2:12pmSanction this postReply
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Alright-alright, already, Rich! I'll buy another Galt-damned copy. But only for the sake of your ferret. I'm fresh out of toilette paper anyway. ;-)




Post 258

Thursday, December 1, 2005 - 2:14pmSanction this postReply
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Thank you *sob*

I'll mail you the ferret pelt, it's probably enough for a fitting book cover.




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