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Thursday, November 3, 2005 - 9:29amSanction this postReply
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An abstraction is not a myth - what Rand postulated were abstractions or the essences of particular kinds of humans, not create myths...

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Thursday, November 3, 2005 - 10:36amSanction this postReply
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I think I might disagree, Robert. :)

Maybe we should consider that the word "myth" has negative connotations.

A few talk points come to me...

Miss Rand chose to introduce her philosophy via novels (this is storytelling). Personally, I think this was brilliant in its simplicity. Old school, really- the oldest school. The strength of the effect is of a far higher magnitude than putting out a manifesto. The potential audience, very much the same situation.
The characters were highly stylized, they were carrying a good deal more weight as characters than even the most complex figures in novels.

Here, this is why I think her novels function for us much like classical mythological themes (The Hero's Journey, etc.) have in the past- it's the powerful and simple way that they serve. How many times have we been in the thick of it, really in a thin place, and we think of goings on in Atlas Shrugged to reset, direct, and inspire us? No complicated process there, its pretty much pure effect. And, because her mythology is of the modern form (man-centered), it works in even more ways than the old myths.

Do you see where I'm coming from on this?


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Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 4:45amSanction this postReply
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An Intriguing Trio

Love and Objectivity in Virtue Ethics
Aristotle, Lonergan, and Nussbaum on Emotions and Moral Insight
Robert J. Fitterer
(University of Toronto 2008)

From the Back Cover:
“Fitterer first demonstrates how certain cognitive operations set out in Aristotelian virtue ethics can indeed arrive at objective moral truth precisely through the contribution emotions make in moral discernment. Then, drawing on Lonergan’s notion of inductive insight, he argues that objectivity is the result of the properly functioning subjectivity of a moral agent. Finally, building on his study of Nussbaum’s ethical writings, Fitterer concludes that compassionate love is an attitude that actually fosters the likelihood of discerning and choosing the genuine good, and encourages objectivity in moral decision-making.”


Faithful to the Earth
Nietzsche and Whitehead on God and the Meaning of Human Life
J. Thomas Howe
(Rowman and Littlefield 2002)

From the Table of Contents:

~The Death of God and the Problem of Nihilism

~The Rise and Development of the Christian Moral Interpretation
Part One: Socratic Platonism

~The Rise and Development of the Christian Moral Interpretation
Part Two: Christianity and Kantian Philosophy

~Nietzsche and the Life of Affirmation

~Whitehead’s Criticism of the Classical Christian Doctrine of God

~The Life and Sense of the World

~Whitehead’s View of God and the Religious Life


The Little Book of Atheist Spirituality
Andre Comte-Sponville
(Penguin 2006)

“Here is where all our different themes converge without conflating.
“Fidelity to truth: rationalism---the rejection of sophism.
“Fidelity to love: humanism---the rejection of nihilism.
“Fidelity to a separation between the two: atheism.
“Truth is not love; if truth loved itself, it would be God. Rather, love can be true, and it is absolute only insofar as we love truly. Such is the atheists’ Pentecost, or the true spirit of atheism: not the Spirit that descends but the spirit that can open us up to the world, to other people, to ever-present eternity---and rejoice. The absolute is not love; rather, love can open us up to the absolute.
“Thus ethics can lead to but not replace spirituality, just as spirituality can lead to but not replace ethics. Here, perhaps---at their culmination---is where the wise and the saintly agree:
“Love, not hope, is what helps us live. Truth, not faith, is what sets us free.
“We are already in the kingdom. Eternity is now.” (205-6)

(Edited by Stephen Boydstun on 2/28, 4:50am)


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Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 5:43amSanction this postReply
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As an artist, a 'spiritual visualizer', I have issues with that last one - if for now the fact that the terms as used are so vague and as such can come to mean almost is wished for, depending on how the person understands those terms...

But - that first one sounds intriguing... thanks, again ;-)
[tho, again, the terms as used pertains to the Judeo-Christian notion of 'love', not an objective one]
(Edited by robert malcom on 2/28, 5:47am)


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