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Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 3:52amSanction this postReply
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This is both interesting and helpful information for all of us frustrated writers here at Solo.
Please share with us the marketing tale soon.

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Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 4:47amSanction this postReply
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Hey there John and welcome.

Thanks for the info about your book. I want to do something like that one day and your info is a big help.


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Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 6:13amSanction this postReply
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John, that was an excellent article. I've wondered about self-publishing ever since I finished a novel in 1997 and couldn't get it published after getting more than 100 rejections from agents across America and Canada -- twice (I sent out the cover letter and info in revised version a year later and got the same form letter responses.)

I, too, hope you will share your marketing tale soon. I am intrigued!


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Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 8:07amSanction this postReply
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John, congratulations! I am pleased to see this article on your self-publishing experiences, and hope you found the whole process rewarding in many ways.

Let me share my own, in brief summary form.

I worked for a while in the early '90s on contract for the Foundation for Economic Education. FEE had been publishing books for many years, but it operated very much like a self-publisher: It simply slapped together and edited manuscripts to make them ready for publication, then -- with no thought about preparing attractive covers, obtaining ISBN's, Library of Congress registrations, bar codes, etc. -- simply mailed them off to a book printer to be slapped into print between two covers. Having little concern for marketing, most of these titles wound up gathering dust in the basement of FEE's Irvington, NY, mansion.

My job for FEE was to create some new titles that would be "bookstore-worthy," and actually get them into bookstores. To do that, I first had to get a thorough understanding of how the book trade worked, and what it takes to self-publish and successfully market a book.

In this educational process I found two books exceptionally valuable. One is The Self-Publishing Manual by Dan Poynter. The other is The Complete Guide to Self-Publishing by Tom and Marilyn Ross. I urge anyone who wishes to explore self-publishing to obtain these books, whose information is largely complementary, then to absorb it thoroughly and follow their advice to the letter.

For me, the result was that my own FEE-published book, Criminal Justice? The Legal System Vs. Individual Responsibility, appeared in bookstores from coast to coast, as well as the big online outlets like Amazon; that I engineered a 30-city book tour during which I did signings in dozens of Borders, B. Dalton, Waldenbooks and Barnes & Noble outlets; that I appeared on scores of radio and TV talk shows, many syndicated to hundreds of broadcast outlets; and that my book sold thousands of copies, even being distributed to most members of Congress. I even wrote up my book-marketing experiences for a two-part series that was published in Writer's Digest in 1997 under the title, "Take Your Book and Sell It." (Incidentally, two other FEE titles that I worked on also made it into the bookstores.)

I'll warn you that each phase of this process -- the writing, the publishing and the marketing -- takes up a great deal of time and effort. But if you've got the passion to get your own book "out there," the advantages of doing it yourself can be significant. For one thing, even a major publisher (if you can get one) does almost nothing to promote your book: it focuses its marketing efforts and money on pushing a few big-name authors in its stable. But by focusing on publishing and promoting only one book -- yours -- you can give it maximum attention as to design and marketing. For another thing, you reap a much higher profit margin on each sale, since you don't have to share earnings with a huge corporate publishing superstructure.

So I urge you to buy those two valuable books and try to incorporate as much of their advice as possible into your own self-publishing efforts. Most importantly, follow the timetable they recommend. The book trade has long "lead times" for their seasonal purchases, and you want to fit their schedules as closely as possible.

Good luck. And again -- congratulations, John. "Happy sales to you."




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Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 8:24amSanction this postReply
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John, thank you so much for writing about your experience.  There is such a wealth of information on this thread that I now have some homework to do.  :)

Robert, I am equally grateful for your insights here.  A friend of mine has written a couple of best-selling books, and even she could not get the publishers to really push them.  She had to go out and produce her own 20-city book tour after making the New York Times Bestseller list!!!

In the end, what a publisher seems to provide is distribution more than anything else.  For a first-time author, I can't imagine that the advance will be terribly large anyway, so why not just do it oneself?


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Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 8:26amSanction this postReply
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Jennifer, you are right: the main benefit you get from a "name" publisher is entry into the channels of book distribution. The big outlets -- online, and chain bookstores -- won't deal with you unless you have a distributor, and getting a distributor on your own isn't easy. The books I cited give many suggestions about how to clear that hurdle.


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Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 9:14amSanction this postReply
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A lot of this applies to music as well, it is so easy to do create an album today, and the record companies are becoming less involved with production and primarily a distribution factor.
Good luck, John, with the book! When I was a book buyer for Tower Records, I ordered a few books that were listed with Ingram that were self-published through their Lightning Books (a print on demand service.) And they did VERY well. It's all up to the marketing; I read about some of these author's selling books out of the trunk of their car in the beginning! And now one is looking at a movie deal. It can be done!

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Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 10:16amSanction this postReply
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AuthorHouse is another worth looking into - know a few who succeeded there [for instance, Judith Kristin, THE PURPLE HAT GANG]......

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Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 11:35amSanction this postReply
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I have some tips you might find helpful.

LaTeX* is indeed the heavyweight in typesetting (especially for math and science material), but if you are satisfied with the formatting in Word, you can convert it to PDF directly using many available programs like the commercial pdfFactory or the free (as in beer) PrimoPDF.

On pages with extensive graphics (like the covers), TIFF prints better than JPG** format. Imagesetting (with text) is much better on Adobe InDesign rather than Word. For pure image pages, Adobe Photoshop can't be beat. But both Adobe programs are expensive. A free solution could be The GIMP.

All images should be in CMYK color space, not RGB, or else you might run the risk of the colors on the monitor not matching the color on the print.

You can output several PDF files to merge later in any order you require. For this you can use the commercial A-PDF Merger or the free PDF Merge.

I have used these programs at one time or another. As with all things in computers, your mileage may vary, but I don't expect any of these programs to blow up your PC.

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*If you really need LaTeX functionality, forget everything I said not about images.

**the lossy compression of JPG produces artifacts that are sometimes visible only in print. The artist or photographer you mentioned might already know all this (same for the CMYK thing).

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PS

The computer guru is Donald Knuth, the greatest computer scientist alive. If you find an error (typo or anything) in his books, he pays $2.56 per error (a "hexadecimal" dollar). It's nowhere near easy.

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If you write stories for a living, you might find yWriter amazing. Just scroll down a bit on the linked page.

To all SOLOists, if you read etexts (like gutenberg) on the monitor (not printed out) get yBook from the same page. Could save your eyesight. Other programs there are worth checking out. Almost all, including yWriter and yBook, are free.

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PPPS

Since this has turned into a sort of software recommendation post... Those who do the organized Outlook thing (like Luke) might want to try out EssentialPIM. It's free, featureful, and looks less boring.

This post certainly got way longer than I anticipated. Again, your mileages may vary.

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Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 12:39pmSanction this postReply
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For all of you out there...Unholy Quest is awesome. I loved it. Funny, quirky, intellegent, and action packed...a great read. I read a good amount and it was the best read I had last year.

Michael


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Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 7:40amSanction this postReply
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I will try to whip up the marketing tale soon!

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Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 12:10pmSanction this postReply
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Yes, the guru is Knuth, a true genius. I edited his name out to hit the thousand-word requirement, but he is an amazing guy.



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Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 12:12pmSanction this postReply
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Robert, thank you for writing up your experience! I can only agree with you about Dan Poynter. I attended a seminar of his. He is an inspiration, and has a helpful website:
www.parapublishing.com

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Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 7:00pmSanction this postReply
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Nice post, Robert. Thanks for the good information, and congratulations on your successful publishing.


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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 - 4:49amSanction this postReply
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My name is Judith Kristen and I self-published with Author House. The total cost for my first book, "The Purple Hat Gang" (a YA book) was $695.00.
I received 20 free copies as part of that deal.. 

I published two more books with Author House: "Olivia Twist...a quest for the glass half-full" and "Another Day in Paradox...a very unconventional love story". 

The cost for each of these books for publishing was $495.00 because I was already with Author House! AND...I received 15 free books per title.

All I had to do was write, send in the manuscript, and my work was over. I used different fonts in all three of my books, and charcoal drawings inside of "Olivia Twist" and had no problems whatsoever.

My covers were designed by a mega-talented friend, but, Author House would have done the cover for me as well ... that too is included in the price of the POD book.

Since two of my books are for Young Adults I presented them to The Philadelphia Board of Education. (my neck of the woods)  They loved what I wrote! I then took myself "on tour" of the Philly school system. I asked that each school purchase at least 5 of my books for their library. (most schools purchased 15 to 20... some schools 100 copies -- to be given to each child in the classes I visited)

Word spread about how well my speeches and writing workshops were doing, and I was aksed to visit local Catholic schools, friends schools and many private academies, both in Philadelphia and New Jersey.

In the eleven months since "The Purple Hat Gang" has been released, librarians have embraced me. My book is listed in Pennsylvania, New Jersey and Delaware as a "Book of Note".

I have spoken to kids at  The Annual Philadelphia Teen Summit, The National Honor Society, The National Beta Club, I was the banquet speaker at the PSLA (Pennsylvania School Librarians Association) and selected as NBC 10's "Huggins' Hero" (named after Edie Huggins, an extraordinary journalist in Philadelphia for over 40 years)  for my work with local children, my championing of libraries and librarians, and the literacy campaign.

ONLY ELEVEN MONTHS after publication!!!!

Okay... so Oprah hasn't called me yet... but I've done well for myself... and best of all I have children who have come to me and said, "Your book was the first I ever read just for fun!"

Writing my own book??? ... rewarding.

Oprah calling me??? .... would be thrilling.

Children enjoying my stories and thanking me for making a difference in how they felt about reading and books???!!!    .... Priceless.

:)


Judy  



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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 - 10:51amSanction this postReply
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Very very nice Judith. And welcome to SOLO. I love reading about success.


regards
John

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 - 10:59amSanction this postReply
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Welcome to SOLO, Judith..........
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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 - 11:08amSanction this postReply
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Judith, welcome and congratulations. You deserve praise not only for doing what it takes to become a published author, but also for having the additional courage to do what it takes to become a well-read author.

Many writers give scant attention to promotion and marketing, and your experience here should demonstrate to them what they are missing. Again, congratulations!

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 - 12:13pmSanction this postReply
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Way to go, Judith. Doesn't it feel great to do what you love to do?

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 - 12:18pmSanction this postReply
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Judith,

Your story is quite inspiring and came at a time when I am feeling down and need motivation (and a successful 'case study') for how to break into the education marketplace writing curriculum materials. Thank you.

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