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Post 40

Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 10:23pmSanction this postReply
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Adam,

You wrote:

"The most likely outcome of a Republican victory this November will be a replay of the last totalitarian-totalitarian war, with ... the Neo-Liberal states of Europe playing the role that Britain and America played in the previous round."

Would this be a veiled reference to Poland saving the world?

-Bill

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Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 10:45pmSanction this postReply
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"In the absence of principle, men act without knowledge or vision. They act short-range and by feeling, their own or their gang's, struggling to trample on others before others trample on them, guessing case by case what policy will 'work' for the nonce."


"The mixed economy obviously rests on the philosophy of pragmatism, and thus on subjectivism. If subjectivism or intrinsicism is embraced as a matter of principle, it leads in politics to pure statism. But if subjectivism or intrinsicism, as happens regularly for perfectly logical reasons, causes men to disdain principles, it leads in politics to eclecticism. Eclecticism is the attempt to combine in one system essentials taken from contradictory approaches.

Since pragmatism dispenses with the idea of an external world and with objective rules of conceptualization, its exponents see no reason for context-keeping or for restraint. They feel free to assert any social demand or daydream that wells up from their subconscious or their subculture. These are the kind of people who specialize in manufacturing false rights."


"Our goals are noble, the daydreamers reply, and noble goals should not be sullied by grubby discussions of means."


"As the virtue of integrity tells us, compromise between good and evil leads to the triumph of evil. This applies to every field of human action, politics included."


"If the statist element is not rejected in principle and repealed in total, it eventually consumes the last remnants of the individualist element. (The economic mechanism ensuring this result is the principle that controls necessitate more controls.)

As the history of the West in the past century demonstrates, the mixed economy is not a "third way" between capitalism and socialism. It is merely a transition stage, a disintegrating anti-system, careening drunkenly but inexorably from freedom to dictatorship."


-author "unknown"

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Post 42

Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 6:42amSanction this postReply
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Not wanting to hijack this thread, I just wanted to alert readers to the fact that my own analysis of the cultural and political implications of Christian fundamentalism has been published today on SOLO HQ:  "Caught Up in The Rapture."  I also comment very briefly on Peikoff's own views at both the Mises Economics Blog and the Liberty & Power Group Blog

Cheers,
Chris
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Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 1:19pmSanction this postReply
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Bill Nevin,

It was a veiled reference to Poland saving the world AGAIN.  But this time, I expect Poland's coalition to stretch from Ireland to Bulgaria and from Spain to Finland.  With likely a big hole where France and Germany used to be.

In Solidarity,

                           Adam





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Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 2:32pmSanction this postReply
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Adam,

Okay, that's cool.

Did you have the 1980's in mind for the first time, culminating in the glorious 1989, as I gather from your Solidarity reference?  Or is there an event in the more distant past to which you are referring?

Thanks,

-Bill


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Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 9:12amSanction this postReply
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Adam,

>>There is a simple way to get around the alleged immune rejection problem.  That is to clone an embryo from the patient, and only then apply embryonic stem cell technology.<<

This statement demonstrates your political fixation on embryonic stem cell research.  The solution to the rejection problem would be the much simpler process of using your OWN existing adult stem cells.

Bill


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Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 7:41pmSanction this postReply
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Citizen rat:

In the absence of experiments with therapeutic cloning, your claim that adult stem cells can do the job better is just an arbitrary assertion, backed by nothing besides your faith.  Just as it was the habit of (now mercifully departed) socialists to prohibit market experiments and claim that, in the absence of knowledge of the actual facts of reality, the only workable solutions in economics were limited to what they preferred; Christianists today prohibit (formally) all research on cloning and also prohibit (indirectly) research on deriving new stem cell lines, and claim that,  in the absence of knowledge of the actual facts of reality, the only workable solutions in medicine are limited to what the Christianists did not forbid.


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Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 7:53pmSanction this postReply
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Bill Nevin,

Yes, I was thinking of Solidarity, and also of the Turkish siege of Vienna in 1683, when Poland turned back a previous Islamic invasion of Europe.  If the Turks had taken Vienna and gained control of the upper Danube basin, their next great battle would have been on the Rhine, against the FRENCH.  You can guess what would have happened to the European Enlightenment then.


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Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 11:05amSanction this postReply
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The issue here seems to finally becoming one of whether there is scientific reason to expect research on embryonic stem-cells to be of any value. With that in mind, let me direct attention to the website of the PBS program, Uncommon Knowledge, and a 2/25/01 discussion involving host Peter Robinson and two men who have the answer: Dr. William Hurlbut, a professor in the Program and Human Biology at Stanford University; and Dr. Irving Weissman, also at Stanford, Chairman of the National Academy of Science's panel on the scientific and medical aspects of human cloning. Dr. Weissman is also the founder of two adult stem cell research companies, SyStemix and Stem Cells Incorporated.

The program is in video, audio, and transcript—take your pick.

My point in offering this reference is that both men are exceptionally knowledgeable about the research potential, both express serious ethical and/or religious concerns about the conduct of such research—yet they agree that embryonic stem-cell research must go forward—that we would be making a serious mistake to limit our research to the adult cells.

As Dr. Weismann states: "we're talking about tens and hundreds of thousands of lives."

Larry

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Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - 1:15pmSanction this postReply
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This reply is a bit tangential to the thread. Dr. Peikoff's daughter, Kira, has published her first novel, "Living Proof", a thriller that centers around a brilliant, young doctor in danger from a strongly Christian government. It takes place some time in the not to distant future, with the government having agencies that protect embryos and watch out for abortions. I thought it was an excellent read. Good characterization, intelligent plotting, and compelling pacing. It integrates the moral theme without a hint of proselytizing or preaching. I look forward to reading her next novel.

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