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Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 3:00pmSanction this postReply
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Thanks for this inspiring photo!

It is a testament to the genius of man, the beauty of nature, and the quickness of the net in providing me with a new desktop wallpaper.

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Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 3:14pmSanction this postReply
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What a beautiful photo from the surface of the Red Planet! And think of everything that it took, all of the intelligence and engineering brilliance to send a spacecraft there to take this photo.

I can't wait for we humans to travel there and settle -- hopefully with private funds and spaceships. In the long run we should terraform the planet, give it an atmosphere and make it another habitat for humans. (You think Roark's skyscappers were an example of man at his best, how about creating a whole new home for homo sapians!) Of course terraforming will change the color of the sky up it will still be beautiful!


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Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 4:38pmSanction this postReply
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Thanks, Duncan. Very cool.

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Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 10:21pmSanction this postReply
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> You think Roark's skyscappers were an example of man at his best... [Ed]

Ed, the skyscrapers could soar even higher into the sky on Mars, like long slender needles, incredibly beautiful given the lower gravity.

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Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 2:22amSanction this postReply
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Lovely and yet eerie photo.

Thanks.


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Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 6:13amSanction this postReply
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Ed Hudgins said:
I can't wait for we humans to travel there and settle -- hopefully with private funds and spaceships. In the long run we should terraform the planet, give it an atmosphere and make it another habitat for humans. (You think Roark's skyscappers were an example of man at his best, how about creating a whole new home for homo sapians!) Of course terraforming will change the color of the sky up it will still be beautiful!
Ed, or anyone interested, if you are not familiar with him I recommend checking out some of Robert Zubrin's work and checking out the Mars Society, of which is he is the founder. He is an incredibly intelligent man, author of the Mars Direct plan (the cheapest and most sensible plan to reach mars yet), worked on the Nuclear salt water rocket engine, worked at Lockheed Martin for quite some time, and is highly critical of the governments stagnating role in the space program.  He is also a wonderful and inspiring writer.  Here is one of my favorite quotes of his.

"Stars are the sources of Life. Enormous engines of nuclear fusion, they pour light out into the cosmos, warming the dead cold of space, and provide the antientropic power needed for the self-organization of matter. Starry nights have a mystic beauty, but when consndered from a scientific standpoint they are even more beautiful then they look. For the million specks of light that adorn the black velvet of a dark night sky are, in fact, nothing less that a million fountains of life." - Robert Zubrin, Founder of the Mars Society


Some excerpts from his book "Entering Space" can be found here

The Mars Society home page

The Mars Direct plan

Entering Space

The Case for Mars

Michael Dickey

(Edited by Michael F Dickey on 6/15, 6:14am)


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Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 9:42amSanction this postReply
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Michael -- Zubrin's work is excellent! I know him very well; I just saw him a few weeks ago at a conference at which I spoke. I also spoke at the 1st Mars Society conference. Here are links to the summaries of the two talks a gave.

One was on a legal/political regime for Mars. I've since refined and revised my thoughts on this:
http://www.cato.org/pubs/wtpapers/980815paper.html

The other was on privately financing a trip to Mars:
http://www.cato.org/pubs/wtpapers/980813paper.html

And here's my op-ed on the "Spiritual Significance of Mars." I should have put up that great sunset photo with this piece:
http://www.objectivistcenter.org/text/ehudgins_spiritual-mars.asp?mc

Phil, you're right about Martian skyscapers; they'll be spectacular!

By the way, Kim Stanley Robinson's three sci-fi books on Mars -- "Red Mars," "Green Mars" and "Blue Mars" give the best realistic presenation -- for sci-fi -- of how Mars might be settled and terraformed. Robinson does not understand economics at all -- few fiction writers do -- but his technical knowledge is pretty good. And he has Muslim extremists in his story (1993) well before most people understood what a threat they were.


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Saturday, June 18, 2005 - 6:47amSanction this postReply
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Ed,

Yes! This is the part of the libertarian movement I really like! The technology first adopters. Reason, for two years under Virginia Postrel had two conferences in 1999-2000 called Dynamic Visions conferences. Zubrin was there with his Mars spiel. Robert Stock talked about wholesale adoption of genetic engineering, Eric Raymond talked about open source software, Michael Schrage talked about corporate creativity and many others.

I've read Green Mars and Red Mars and they are indeed excellent.

Jim


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