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Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 10:21pmSanction this postReply
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Great quote, George.

Don't look for the abstract meaning, look for the concrete use -- and in this concrete use of a thing, you will find (or provide) the meaning of the thing.

It is not words, but people, that mean.

Ed


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Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 1:30pmSanction this postReply
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This is the kind of non-absolutist morality that is destroying the world.

Life will always have meaning, regardless of whether one is cognizent of it or not. "Life has no meaning unless" is part of an ethical theorem. "One lives it with a will" is part of a postulate. You can't undercut the theorem with a postulate, then you're just begging the question.

Virtue, good, and evil are all abstract concepts brought into reality by man's actions. You cannot apply a concept unless you know what it means. If you don't know it's meaning, you're acting without knowledge. To act without knowledge is to act with death as the standard of your morality.

How can you say that people mean, but words don't? "People" is a word. Words and definitions are at the essence of understanding reality and acting rationally. Without words, "people" would just be some vague concept with no name.

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Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 8:02pmSanction this postReply
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This is the kind of non-absolutist morality that is destroying the world.
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And that is a misidentification that is common among others who don't yet know me. I realize you're new, but have you ever read my article list? I'm thinking, nah, this guy has no idea of me (yet).


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Life will always have meaning
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Meaning to whom?


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Virtue, good, and evil are all abstract concepts brought into reality by man's actions.
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Agreed.


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You cannot apply a concept unless you know what it means.
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Agreed.


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If you don't know it's meaning, you're acting without knowledge.
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Agreed.


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To act without knowledge is to act with death as the standard of your morality.
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Agreed.


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How can you say that people mean, but words don't?
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People mean things with their use of words. Words are "brought into reality by man's actions." As rational differentiators, we divide and unite instantiated objects from and with other instantiated objects -- and we crown our division-and-unification with a "word." This is the manner in which people mean.


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Words and definitions are at the essence of understanding reality and acting rationally. Without words, "people" would just be some vague concept with no name.
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And without people, words wouldn't be anything at all. Words are our tools, and they come about in a very special way (words aren't mere arbitrary "sproutings of society"). There is a correct way to use words (and a million incorrect ways) -- to use them in reference to the initial need that was met by their first coming to be.

One ought not deny the need in reality that was met by the formation of the concept that any word signifies. Words are "meant" to refer to something in reality of significance to man.

Ed

(Edited by Ed Thompson on 5/25, 8:04pm)

(Edited by Ed Thompson on 5/25, 8:05pm)


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Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 9:18pmSanction this postReply
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Life simply 'is'..... meaning comes from within - what ye do yourself to create the meaning [after all, it is to yourself that there BE meaning]..

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