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Damn! That is one scary quote!

Post 1

Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 2:04pm

There must be a God 8-D That is, I mean, objective justice.

Bush should feel morally constrained to say "Amen Brother"!.

Colbert was quite rude at a recent press dinner(*) but Colbert nailed the exact kind of faith the anti-theist scoffers use to chide Bush:

http://www.gnn.tv/threads/15311/Colbert_Does_a_Number_on_Bush_at_Dinner

Colbert said he believed in all religions and named them and then said, “there are infinite paths to accepting Jesus Christ as your personal savior.”

LOL! Anyone carefully listening to Bush evaiding questions regarding his faux fundamentalism posed by hostile press will appreciate that meally-mouthed rhetoric. And none can forget the fiery response to his testing the concept of a "crusade" =D

I've heard it said (?) "nations aren't destroyed, they commit suicide". Asserting a corellary, after reading Aristotle describe the last form of courage the courage of the ignorant to danger, after a nation's leaders tell enough lies and practice enough treachery, noone is willing to fight for them. Of course, YMMV, but I can't see fighting for globalists that inflate paper money and make me compete with state-owned foriegn peasants.

(*)Perhaps Bush figured if this Tonya Harding 'capped him, he could get sympathy points? Yes, the Dem's & Repugs can always rely on Cheney or Kennedy, respectively, to make themselves more popular in contrast.

Scott

Post 2

Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 2:53pm

What a nut job.

Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 7:22pm

This kind of rhetoric sounds extremely familiar to me. No, they are not really scary. They are just empty words without an economical and military power behind them.

Post 4

Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 12:57am

The mighty shall over power the meek, and deny them their inheritance. God will be forgotten, and the mighty churches shall fall. All men will become productive, and the might state welfare system will demenish to nothing. Social security will dwendle down to it's last dollar, and all men will be required to plan their own retirement
People will realize the violation of the right to free speech and away goes the federal communications commission. They will realize the hero called the business man, and so much for the federal trade commission. People will realize that their doctor really does know what he is talking about, and the down fall of HMO's, and state medical boards will be immenant.
One day everyone will see just how full of crap invironmentalists are, and we will be free of ecological constraints.

Post 5

Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 2:27am

This kind of rhetoric sounds extremely familiar to me. No, they are not really scary. They are just empty words without an economical and military power behind them.

Reminiscent of N. Korea's Kim Jung Il's ranting, isn't it? Yet, I've heard and understand the weak tend to strike first, rather than the strong. The strong are confident in their strength, the weak must prove they can't be pushed around, and are apt to sneak-attack.

Diplomacy is more than the art of saying "nice doggy" while you get a stick. It's giving your enemy a consoling lie to decieve themselves with.

There are probably more than a few bleeding thugs, surprised by their aged and weak victims in America's "shoot first" states:

http://www.keenefreepress.com/mambo/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=49&Itemid=36

I find Bush & co. (Rice) despicable, whether they are caving in to N. Korea, paying extortion after Bush said he wouldn't, or attacking Iraq, or negotiating with Iran.

He couldn't do anything to satisfy me, because the principle the policy of his fellow repugs and democrats is corrupt opportunistic pragmatism, predatory usury cloaked in the name of evangelical "freedom".

Scott

Post 6

Friday, May 12, 2006 - 1:54am

AMEN, Scott

Friday, May 12, 2006 - 3:54am

According to Robert Spencer of jihadwatch,

"[Chieftain Ahmadinejad's] letter was indeed the call to Islam that must precede any attack, in accord with Muhammad's words (in Sahih Muslim 4294) about inviting the unbelievers to accept Islam or dhimmitude and fighting him only if he refuses both." ["Iran's Thug-In-Chief: my letter to Bush was invitation to Islam."]

I would take the letter seriously, and to take it as an open declaration of war against America and the free world.

Joel Català

(Edited by Joel Català on 5/12, 3:57am)

Post 8

Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 9:10pm

Scott said ...

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He couldn't do anything to satisfy me, because the principle the policy of his fellow repugs and democrats is corrupt opportunistic pragmatism, predatory usury cloaked in the name of evangelical "freedom".
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Whoa [think Keanu Reeves].

Ed

Post 9

Saturday, May 20, 2006 - 10:06am

"Liberalism and Western style democracy have not been able to help realize the ideals of humanity."

It makes you wonder how many "ideals of humanity" have been realized in Iran...

Post 10

Sunday, July 9, 2006 - 7:04am

Liberalism in the true sense of the word has not failed. It's never really been tried.

However, democracy HAS FAILED. It has demonstrated that it does not keep charlatans out of positions of power. In fact, it practically guarantees that the scum will rise to the top.

Technically, the Third Reich was a democracy. Hitler gained by power when the Reichstag gave him an enabling act, basically a blank legislative check. I often refer to it as a post-democratic system. We are inching closer and closer to one here.

How often do you see a democracy actually get rid of a giant bureaucracy? How often do you see bad laws go away in a democracy? How often have you seen taxes lowered in a democracy?

Post 11

Sunday, July 9, 2006 - 10:01am

Andrew Bowman asked rhetorically: "It makes you wonder how many "ideals of humanity" have been realized in Iran..."

About 1977 or so, I was in a natural food store in East Lansing. It was called "Family of Man" but everyone called it "Family of Sam" to be more politically correct by calling it after the owner. One day, there was this college woman in there, berating a clerk, demanding to know whether or not the pistachios came from Iran, because she refused to buy Iranian pistachios. The Shah, Raz Pahlavi, (and his university educated wife), were unpopular with the American left. Well... Over the years, I often have thought of that woman and wondered whose pistachio nuts she's buying now...

Also, the last time I told this story, someone in the group pointed out that in 1978, it wasn't the shah out there planting and picking nuts, so any boycott would only hurt the person least culpable for the shah's transgressions -- a point not lost on me today.

Mahmood Ahmadi-Najad isn't out there with the pistachios. Which leads to the question: So what? I mean: so what am I supposed to do about Mahmood Ahmadi-Najad's government that the people of Iran cannot do? More cogently: what should the American government in Washington do?

Post 12

Monday, July 10, 2006 - 9:41am