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Tuesday, September 6, 2005 - 2:30pmSanction this postReply
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Awesome. Name calling as tool of persuasion.

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Tuesday, September 6, 2005 - 2:42pmSanction this postReply
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I'm not trying to persuade anyone of anything at the moment...it has become clear that there are people who adhere to foolish thought no matter how clear-headed and rational the alternative is presented. I am calling a spade a spade. People who don't believe in the free market are idiots, pure and simple, and I don't apologize for calling them as such. The only alternative to the free market and it's mechanisms is governmental control, and only a fool believes in that.

When are Objectivists going to stand up and say that there's a right viewpoint and a wrong one, and call the dogmatics of the wrong the idiots that they are?

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Tuesday, September 6, 2005 - 2:49pmSanction this postReply
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Is it name calling - or is it identification?

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Tuesday, September 6, 2005 - 8:35pmSanction this postReply
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I thought this article went well with your comments.

http://www.edlotterman.com/PriceGouging.htm


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Tuesday, September 6, 2005 - 9:10pmSanction this postReply
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Brian-
Good article, and welcome.  I agree, against my will I am often required to pay $4 for a cup of coffee.  The travesty is that I voluntarily do it.  And I will not even mention what I have to pay for a good bottle of wine...I demand that something be done.


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Tuesday, September 6, 2005 - 9:13pmSanction this postReply
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Out of context it sounds like an statement of exasperation. He does define his terms of the word though, and I can't think of an argument against it. Idiot, unaware, ignorant, stupid, uneducated...in this sense it sounds like one in the same.

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Tuesday, September 6, 2005 - 9:14pmSanction this postReply
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Also Brian-

I thought this short snippet the crux of the matter

 Punishing price "gouging," defined after the fact,

"After the fact".  This is the evil.  As Ayn Rand said, man can at least live under strict laws, it is the unknown and arbitrary that is crippling.

(Edited by Jody Allen Gomez on 9/06, 9:14pm)


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Wednesday, September 7, 2005 - 6:23amSanction this postReply
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"People who don't believe in the free market are idiots, pure and simple, and I don't apologize for calling them as such."

Leaving out the possibility of the mis-informed, confused, brainwashed, or budding Objectivist? That makes Linz-the-former-Commie a reformed idiot? And I was an idiot before I figured this stuff out? Is idiocy volitional or genetic? Human beings are not computers. It takes people some time to 'spiral' with ideas and really integrate them.

That said, I can understand your exasperation. I still remember with some distaste my arguments with Marxists on campus at college. They preferred to mock the 'invisible hand' and ascribe it to Republican mysticism, rather than understanding that it is just a cognitive tool to describe a self correcting market. The facts were right there, but they preferred, like a pack of jackals, to remain in the group and evade. I just don't know whether calling people idiots in a blanket sort of way is fair, accurate, or effective. Its the sort of thing Marxists do. It can be emotionally satisfying, though. And it MAY be accurate of some of them.

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Wednesday, September 7, 2005 - 8:15amSanction this postReply
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Scott,

Well said. I disagree with one thing, though. You said:
I just don't know whether calling people idiots in a blanket sort of way is fair, accurate, or effective.
Just a rhetorical disagreement.

I do know. It is not.

(But I think that is what you meant anyway.)
Its the sort of thing Marxists do.
Yup.

Michael


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