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Saturday, November 22, 2008 - 11:28pmSanction this postReply
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hey ,Obama is Already gettin rpped n the circuit in Lansing  Michigan.!!!!!!!!!!!! To Bad you were such a nice crew

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Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 6:58pmSanction this postReply
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"I'd gather we are going to learn if the government is altruistic or selfish and in what respect."

The people running the government tend to selfishly advance their political careers by pushing ruinously altruistic government programs -- a bad combo.

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Monday, November 24, 2008 - 11:25amSanction this postReply
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I'll go out on limb and predict that we'll be in an economic depression and that Obama will be about as popular as Bush is now (maybe less).

Dunno, FDR got reelected three times despite doing things that caused a recession to turn into the Great Depression -- and Obama is talking about a New New Deal.

Maybe there will be a reckoning if the economy still sucks 4 years from now, ala Jimmy Carter, but it doesn't appear from the ongoing popular worship of FDR that the public will necessarily hold Obama accountable if he screws things up royally, so long as he is charming and brazens it out and says the problem is the government didn't intervene enough.

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Monday, November 24, 2008 - 1:02pmSanction this postReply
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The greater the panic that exists, the greater the tendency for people to project a sense of omnipotence onto Obama and to rationalize and deny anything that gets in the way of a fantasy that he can make things better.

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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 12:52amSanction this postReply
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Maybe there will be a reckoning if the economy still sucks 4 years from now, ala Jimmy Carter, but it doesn't appear from the ongoing popular worship of FDR that the public will necessarily hold Obama accountable if he screws things up royally, so long as he is charming and brazens it out and says the problem is the government didn't intervene enough. (Jim Henshaw)



Bingo. That is exactly what I believe will occur.

I've tried to imagine what could possibly turn public opinion against him, and I come up with nothing.

I see two terms for Obama.

(Edited by Erica Schulz on 11/25, 9:59am)


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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 3:39amSanction this postReply
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One term.

America is not the nation it was in the 1930s.  Earth is not the planet it was.

Brave New World, We, Things to Come, Looking Backward ...  they all projected greater (greatest) collectivism.  Understand BNW in particular.  The clones had names like Lenina Marx and Benito Hoover.  It was expected that as a trained engineer whose organizational skills saved Europe after World War One, that Herbert Hoover would manage the economic crisis. 

Working on the Bay Bucks Community Currency Committee, I read many newspapers from Traverse City, Michigan, from the October 1929 to Winter 1932-1933 when the banks were closed.  TC is not special in any way, a small, almost isolated community of farmers.  There was a front page story, top of the fold, that showed Hitler, Stalin, and Mussolini at their desks! Writing!  "The great dictators of Europe work to solve their nations' problems."  

I do not see that for our time. 

Atlas Shrugged... The Fountainhead... Anthem....

As I have said here too often, I just completed a four-year university degree in a pretty mainstream place, Ann Arbor, not at the U of M, but at EMU.  I had two required classes in undergraduate economics, Micro and Macro.  I do not buy textbooks, I collect them.  As a security guard on campus, I got to pick up the discards when faculty cleared out their offices.  It is the mainstream of economics education in college today to teach Chicago Monetism.  Keynes gets a sidebar -- as does Ludwig von Mises -- both of them highlighted extreme opinions with some merit. 

What I see is that the millennial eschatology of christian conservatism so deeply permeates our thinking -- as if Atlas were not enough -- that we all not only expect the end of the world, we dream of it, like Sleeping Beauty waiting for her Prince.

I stopped doing that when I read The Future and Its Enemies by Reason editor Virginia Postrel.  Not only is the  world a pretty stable place, we should be happy that it is.   Yes, we are always on guard here at the Marotta Household.  We have been buying extra canned foods and other staples, a little bit each week. In centralized economies, suprising dislocations are unsurprisingly predictable.  It's not the end of the world.  It's just another US President coming... and going... in one term...


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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 8:23amSanction this postReply
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Yes, I tend to agree with you, Michael - underneath all the hoopla of the media today lies a very different world and context of things than was way back then two generations ago - and indeed Postrel's work is well worth reading and rereading to help keep the perspective, along with Reynold's Army of Davids, and Cowen's Creative Destruction... and yes, Cookingham's The Age of Rand... when one deals with individuals qua individuals, there is a far different view of things than when pandering to the 'intelligence' of groups...

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Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 8:59pmSanction this postReply
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So now what do you think? Is the plurality correct?

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