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Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 7:25pmSanction this postReply
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Fascists of the Middle

I can't imagine that Mike Huckabee has a Howard Dean's chance in Heaven of getting elected, and even if he did, would the Democrats roll over and let him exile Papists, atheists & Jews?

Elsworth Bloomberg is the one who scares me. He has a mean streak and a power complex that doesn't seem to make the national news. He ran as a Republican who promised not to raise taxes, and then raised property taxes 30%, put $1.50 tax on cigarettes, outlawed their use in private businesses (except for a club in which he was a member) and is now regulating what kind of fat our restaurants use. Bloomberg is a fascist of the middle, a dissembler whose true agenda no one knows. He never even mentioned cigarette smoking when he ran for mayor, but it was agenda #1 the day he was inaugurated. At least with Huckabee, we know what filth he stands for.

And can the Edwards foes comment? I do dislike him immensely, but was surprised he's outpolling Hillary.

Ted Keer

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Friday, December 28, 2007 - 8:48amSanction this postReply
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Hillary Clinton will be president.
Any other discussion on that topic is fantasy.

Do you think that her veep will be Sen. Barack Obama or Gen. Wesley Clark?
What do you think it would take to make that happen either way?


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Friday, December 28, 2007 - 12:09pmSanction this postReply
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Michael - I have to disagree with you there.

Hillary makes the right go beehive-stupid, whereas she doesn't have many fans on the left, either. Women generally don't like her and neither do most men, when asked.

I'm callin' it for Mitt Romney. No question in my mind.

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Friday, December 28, 2007 - 1:04pmSanction this postReply
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Huckabee is TERRIFYING!

Read this from his 'closing speech' in Iowa today:

One lengthy story involved one of his sons, who was apparently difficult at a young age and who was left behind at home one day while the rest of the family went out. When Huckabee returned, his son presented him with a cake he had just baked -- a cake that turned out be inedible.

His son, attempting to interpret unfamiliar phrases in the recipe, decided that "a dash of salt" meant a cup of salt -- and in doing so, ruined the cake. The audience was in stitches as Huckabee described the result, a cake no human could eat, but as he said, if you set it outside, the cows would lick it for a week.

Then came the message. "My son did not set out to do anything that turned out so horrible," he said. "His motives were pure. His actions were admirable. He was dedicated to the task. And he intended in every way to do something good. But he made one colossal mistake. My son had made his own definition of what a dash meant.... When we start defining right and wrong with our own definitions...no matter how well intentioned we are, no matter how sincere, the result is a disaster."



I've never heard a more likeable, charming or less threatening expression of the Authoritarian Mind. Who, one might ask, lays down the recipes that all Americans must follow?


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Friday, December 28, 2007 - 3:10pmSanction this postReply
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"I'm callin' it for Mitt Romney. No question in my mind."Steve D

On what basis? The polls have been saying otherwise for months.

RCP

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Friday, December 28, 2007 - 4:17pmSanction this postReply
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I would most fear H. Clinton in the White House; and a minor fraction of that fear stems from her gender (and the majority from what she stands for).

How's that for sticking to the voicing of your sentiments (no matter how socially-unpopular they may be)?

:-O

Ed
[I even believe that there are others out there who share this very sentiment -- though they'd prefer not to advertise it]


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Friday, December 28, 2007 - 7:32pmSanction this postReply
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Jeff:

Mitt's got the look and just enough squishy pseudo-conservatism. I'll be more than willing to eat crow if and when the time comes, but I think Mitt's going to be the one. The polls weren't so hot for Reagan when he rolled into the primaries either; likewise, the polls in the primaries were huge for Howard Dean, and look where he ended up! John Kerry was polling very low in the early '04 Dem primaries, and Bush wasn't doing all that great in the early '00 primaries.

What I am trying to say is that primaries don't really shake out the way they poll. But my prediction is just for fun; there's no real way of knowing until March.

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Saturday, December 29, 2007 - 12:27pmSanction this postReply
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Ed, what, exactly about Clinton's gender do you fear?

I don't think Hillary will win, but if she does, we know what she stands for. She will presumably want to get re-elected. Congressional Republicans should keep her in check.

Of course Huckabee is a lunatic. His religious statements make Mormonism look respectable. He has no chance of being elected.

It is the middle of the road candidates with meddling and muddled agendas whom we have to fear. Romney, Edwards and Bloomberg are the types who will not repeal taxes, but will allow or increase regulation and spending. Think about GHWB's "read my lips" presidency. While many on this list dislike GWB because he dared to attempt to clean up the foreign policy failures of his father and Bill Clinton, and for not vetoing the Congress' obscene spending sprees, I think his father was a much worse president. It is the candidates who most resemble his middle-of-the roadism who sacre me most.

Ted Keer

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Saturday, December 29, 2007 - 12:51pmSanction this postReply
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Ted, no way. I don't buy your GWB v. GWHB comparison at all.

Our current President signed BCRA, Medicare Part D, this new insanity banning incandescent light bulbs, massive ag subsidies, nationalized the airports (essentially) and created a new Cabinet for the Department of Redundant Redundancy.

The GWB cabinet also has classified documents at an astonishing rate. I don't even want to get into ignoring an already secret court's orders and trying to elevate his personal attorney to the SCOTUS.

And, oh by the way, rampantly violating federalism by raiding and jailing legal proprietors of MM Clinics in the State of California, going after foreign owners of online betting (legal in those countries, of course) and forcing banks to become arms of State.

Lest we forget, jailing Martha Stewart for made up crimes and instituting Sarbanes-Oxley, which is choking businesses as we speak.

Also, I explicitly do not dig Iraq, and we're only getting an initial idea of the cost (think VA benefits in fifteen years and you'll start to get the picture).

Yeah, I'd rather have had GHWB any day of the week and twice on Sunday.



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Saturday, December 29, 2007 - 8:48pmSanction this postReply
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Ted,

It's been my experience that women -- on average -- aren't as naturally restrained by the dictates of reason, freedom, individualism, and justice (as men, taken on an average, are). Even documented brain-scans during psychological experiments (brain reactions to justice being "served") have indirectly supported this personal experience of mine. This is not to say that any given man is more naturally just -- only that men, in general, seem more hard-wired for this particular virtue.

2 Caveats:

(1) Further experiments may reveal that women have a greater propensity for a different virtue (exceeding the average of men).

2) And, either way, morality is not defined by "propensity" -- but by actualized behavior regardless of inherent propensities. That's the merit of rational animals -- that their behavior isn't "dictated" by range-of-the-moment emotion (like it is with wild animals).


Ed


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Saturday, December 29, 2007 - 9:00pmSanction this postReply
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Ted, furthermore ...

Chris Rock recently joked about how men can't win in arguments against women -- because men "have the need to make sense!" And the reason that this is so funny (as measured by the audience's -- as well as my own -- outburst into laughter) is because there is at least an element of truth to it.

I've also heard -- but admittedly, have never methodically verified -- that female rape victims get more "justice" from juries predominantly male; rather than from juries predominantly female. Perhaps someone here can verify/nullify that rumor. [?]


Ed


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Sunday, December 30, 2007 - 4:13pmSanction this postReply
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Steve, I'm not going to try to defend GWB's indefensible policies or lack thereof. The Harriet Myers Debacle speaks for itself. But had GHWB simply taken out Saddam in 1991, or had Clinton taken out UBL, much of our current woes would not have come to be. Our current, accidental, president should never have come anywhere near the office, but neither should he have had to clean up the Augean messes of the prior 12 years. I see only one can-do candidate currently running. Giuliani has his flaws, but his strengths outweigh them.

Ted Keer



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Sunday, December 30, 2007 - 4:21pmSanction this postReply
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Not to mention, if that slug Carter had done his job in 1979, instead of wailing and moaning for months on end, probably much of the history of the past 29 years would be very different.

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Sunday, December 30, 2007 - 5:17pmSanction this postReply
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Y'all have to realize, too, that whomever is elected to the presidency has to deal with Congress, which means whatever views held is as such held in check to some degree, stalemate even - and yes, even if all end from the same party as the majority, that does not mean rubber stamping....

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Sunday, December 30, 2007 - 8:10pmSanction this postReply
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Jeff, I have known some slugs, and Carter is no slug. You demean the shell-less gastropods with your careless slander.


(Edited by Ted Keer on 12/30, 8:14pm)


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Sunday, December 30, 2007 - 8:16pmSanction this postReply
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Featureless, crawling, slimy... I'd say that's a reasonably accurate description. I haven't the ability to describe him as foul as he deserves to be, I admit.

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Sunday, December 30, 2007 - 10:48pmSanction this postReply
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But slugs have a certain beauty to them, if you can consider them as designed well toward their ecological niche. Carter is more like some semi-human monster from the X-files. Ever heard of the Fiji Mermaid?



Ted

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Monday, December 31, 2007 - 7:24amSanction this postReply
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Well, Carter seems reasonably well designed for his ecological niche: lunatic ex-President and left-wing media darling.

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Monday, December 31, 2007 - 9:55amSanction this postReply
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Rand, in a Phil Donahue interview, justly -- i.e., judged him for what he is, and treated him accordingly -- justly characterized President Carter in one sentence [paraphrased]:

It's as if he has no ideas; and if he does, he has no feelings.
And then Donahue tried (unsuccessfully) to contain his scoffing reaction to that.


Ed


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Wednesday, January 9, 2008 - 8:13amSanction this postReply
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I find it interesting that so far in this poll, John McCain is the only one who no one chose as the person they would most fear in the White House. 

John McCain, more than any other candidate, employs rhetoric about self-sacrifice:

"To sacrifice for a cause greater than yourself, and to sacrifice your life to the eminence of that cause, is the noblest activity of all."
 
Since McCain has just scored a victory in New Hampshire, I was curious to learn more about him.  I went to his site and watched a brief video entitled "Faith":  http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/95b18512-d5b6-456e-90a2-12028d71df58.htm

I'm specifically interested to hear from those who were most afraid of Rudy Giuliani.  I don't understand why someone would fear Rudy more than John McCain. 


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