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Sunday, July 21, 2013 - 12:17pmSanction this postReply
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Excerpts from http://www.theory-of-reciprocity.com/life.html

Though particle physicists can't claim with certainty to have isolated a truly elemental particle, I personally believe I am more than qualified to speak with profound authority on the subject - because I am one. And so are you.

"Cogito ergo sum." (Descartes)

I think, therefore I am. One must exist in order to experience, and the fact you experience is convincing proof you exist.

You ostensibly consider yourself to be 'an existence', else you would call yourself "we" instead of "I"; but what exactly is 'an existence'?

Since the time of Democritus of Abdera (460-370 BC) it has been postulated the Universe is comprised of particles which - though they may be profoundly minute in nature - are not infinitely divisible. It is inherently logical that before the smallest non-empty set can be assembled, there must exist an individual element with which the set may be populated, a single existence that is not composed of independent parts, an irreducible physical manifestation consisting only of itself. I call this elemental identity an 'entity'. So far, physicists haven't been able to find a truly verifiable entity and it is entirely possible they would not recognize one even if they could isolate it.

The material objects with which we interact in our environment are composites. A chair, for example, is the label we use to conveniently describe a set of parts including a seat, legs, back and arms. If its construction is of wood, then those parts are made of sets labeled 'cells' which are comprised of sets labeled 'molecules' which are, in turn, formed by sets labeled 'atoms', whose protons, neutrons and electrons have been theoretically superseded as fundamental particles by hadron groups populated by even smaller sub-sets of quark and lepton particles and anti particles which, themselves, may or may not be truly irreducible.

An irreducible physical entity is 'an existence'. Everything comprised of those entities, from an atom to a galaxy cluster, is a composite.

You are ostensibly 'an existence', but your body is a composite - a collection of billions of separate elements or fundamental particles, each with its own individual properties. Each basic particle pre-existed your birth and will ultimately survive your demise. Each has a unique history, a separate location and physical domain. Logically this presents a conundrum. How can you be 'an existence' if that manifestation which you consider to be yourself is a composite? Indeed, every existence has its own unique identity and a collection of existences will have as many separate, individual identities as there are elements in the set.

The Pinocchio Hypothesis

To reconcile this disparity, hordes of scholarly pundits with names basking in beakers of alphabet soup profess that if you toss just the right combination of terrestrial ingredients into a primordial cauldron and stir it really, really hard for a very, very long time, you can produce a composite that thinks, propagates and experiences a single existence with an individual identity. That may sound silly (I call it the Pinocchio hypothesis), but which lowly layman in his right mind would dare contradict an entire horde of scholarly pundits - especially when they are basking in beakers of alphabet soup. So, with an eye of newt and wing of bat, a pinch of this and a dash of that, these pundits dub this egregious departure from logic "the phenomenon of emergent properties" or EP and they credit it with the creation of all life on Earth.

But even the most tenured of scholars aren't able to explain the specific mechanics of EP that transform a body with 8x1027 atoms into a single existence with an individual identity. In fact, there seems to be two distinct factions in the EP camp. The 'integration' group assures us without hesitation that some unknown power of unification melds a composite into a single identity and awareness. This faction would have us believe 8x1027 = 1. On the other hand, the 'emergence' group tries to convince us 8x1027 = 8x1027+1, claiming any sense of self is due to the whole being greater than the sum of its parts. They expect us to believe composites can conjure up a supervening entity, a temporary ego or virtual being with its own separate awareness and identity. In their practice of this mathematical sorcery, proponents of EP are idiomatically reduced to casting the incantations "integrated" and "emergent" because "abracadabra" and "hocus pocus" are currently shunned and disfavored by the orthodox scientific community.

Hogwarts! If this is science, then Harry Potter is the next Isaac Newton. If you believe you are the corporal product of emergent properties then you are claiming that you are an occurrence and not an existence. Merlin, himself, would be embarrassed by such magical thinking.

So what is life?

To quote Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's famous character Sherlock Holmes in Chapter 6 of 'The Sign of Four', "when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

Life is no chemical accident, nor was it conjured into fruition by some benevolent and omnipotent deity. Life is simply the product of a spectrum of undiscovered entities, irreducible elements with the attribute of natural animation that long ago began to manipulate the resources of this planet or 'wear the mud' so to speak. Some may call them "souls", but I prefer to call any form of animated entity a "persona" (plural - personae) to differentiate between the religious and secular connotations.

Our physical size is extremely tiny prior to our trek into life (a feature for which anyone who is, was, or ever will become pregnant can be eternally grateful), so it comes as no surprise that we haven't been able to isolate and identify that element within us that compiles and compels our corporal garb.Your body is something you wear, not something you are. It does; however, seem to be a necessary tool in order for us to function and think in human terms. By rote and repetition you have been trained since birth to think you are that thing you see in the mirror - hair, eyes, nose, skin, and appendages. You have developed the self-image that your body is YOU. But your corpse is, in fact, entirely removable - demonstrably so. If you cut off an appendage, it will suddenly be over there, yet you will not lose your identity. You will probably still have feeling in a phantom limb that isn't there. Just because something was held onto your corpse by molecular bond didn't make it YOU. Your body is simply the remnants of that hamburger and fries you ate a few years ago, that beer you had yesterday and that delicious Cesar salad from the 1990's. Most of the cells you wear today will be replaced by new cuisine within the next seven years or so. The brain is said to be the home of the id, yet you can remove any number of its lobes and still retain your identity; there is no specific cell in your entire corporal structure whose removal would cause you significant distress, much less destroy your sense of self.

As strange as it may seem, you have no idea what you actually look like because consciousness, as we know it, only occurs when you are wrapped within your corporal shell. Even if you could strip away the blood and the bones just long enough to glimpse your true countenance, you might see nothing at all, for that fundamental element which is you may not have the property of mass. Like space, your essence may be transparent - more invisible than the air you breathe.

Centuries or eons from now when the first persona is detected by a technology not yet envisioned, society will look back upon our modern era and wonder how creatures who couldn't even understand the nature of their own being could have considered themselves intelligent when the evidence that surrounded them was so obvious and compelling.


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Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 8:16amSanction this postReply
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Jack McNally wrote,
To quote Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's famous character Sherlock Holmes in Chapter 6 of 'The Sign of Four', "when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."
Let me see if I understand this. It's not impossible that Jack murdered Joe. Therefore, however improbable, it must be TRUE that he murdered him??

Sherlock Holmes may have been a good detective, but he was a terrible epistemologist!

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Saturday, October 3, 2015 - 11:23amSanction this postReply
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Conceded - Holmes should have said "the truth lies within whatever remains."

But you haven't addressed the logic of the basic premise: 'An Existence' is not a composite and a composite is  NOT 'An Existence'.

If you exist, you must be 'An Existence' - else you should cease the  use of "I" and begin to refer to yourself as "We".

This is pretty simple and obvious stuff.



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Saturday, October 3, 2015 - 2:47pmSanction this postReply
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You are ostensibly 'an existence', but your body is a composite - a collection of billions of separate elements or fundamental particles, each with its own individual properties. Each basic particle pre-existed your birth and will ultimately survive your demise. Each has a unique history, a separate location and physical domain. Logically this presents a conundrum. How can you be 'an existence' if that manifestation which you consider to be yourself is a composite? Indeed, every existence has its own unique identity and a collection of existences will have as many separate, individual identities as there are elements in the set.

 

There is a form of a hierarchy where each item is made up of parts ("containment hierarchy"), and where the item itself is a part for a larger entity.  A cell in a human body is a part of a given organ like the liver, but when the cell is seen as a whole, it has organelles, like the nucleus and the mitochondria.  And they contain molecules, etc.  Looking the other way, the liver is a part of that person's body.  This is an issue of where we 'place' the 'viewer.'  Does the 'viewer' look inward from the boundary of the liver cell seeing its bits and pieces like that cell's mitochondra?  Or, does the 'view' look outward and see all the other organs of this person, like the heart and lungs, that make up a greater whole (the body).

 

Arthur Koestler wrote about this in his books "Ghost in the Machine" and "Janus" and described these things that follow this kind of hierarchical form as "holons" - he saw our way of looking at these (of holding them in our mind and 'moving' the 'viewer' about), as a natural representation of relationships in reality.  In his understanding each whole was affected by its parts, and the parts were effected by the whole they belonged to and this, in a sense, is about the fact that reality is an interconnected whole.

 

It also parallels, in a way, the process of conceptualization as Rand describes it in Introduction to Objectivist Epistemology except that her process grants us the ability to form abstractions of abstractions which means we can create mental hierarchies that aren't simple replicas of physycal structures but instead represent a mental arrangement of properties or relationships between physical entities.  What can remain is this Holon type of hierarchy - the containment has become abstract.  There is some purpose, of course, in the creation or use of the mental structure, but what is of interest is that the Holon structure, when made explicit, can often serve to guide us in holding context.

 

This is a discussion in which being careful to separate metaphysical identity from epistemological identity is important (while recognizing that epistemological identy always depends upon the validity of metaphysical identity).

 

Now, turning to Jack's post, and the quote from there at the top of this post, I'd say there were two different topics being addressed. 

 

One is about how should metaphysical identity be understood when we are talking about a specific person, and this can't be done without also addressing the fact that we can recognize metaphysical existents in ways that validly 'assign' an epistemological identity.  In other words, Steve exists which means he has an identity in the sense that he exists as something (In metaphysics: existence = identity, identity = existence).  Epistemologically the identity of steve is context and purpose determined.  I can be the fellow that lives in that house.  Or someone could point at me and say, "That is Steve," or some other form of isolating me from all other's in the appropriate context for the discussion.  Jack's post gives rise to a join between metaphysics and epistemology where my "persona" (as Jack is using the term) is isolated from all other "personae" - a joining of a yet to be discovered physical entity to the whole of me (as the creation of this entity).

 

The second topic Jack's post raises is about evolution as a process.  Not just evolution as a biological process of speciation and genes leveraging themselves from one generation to the next, but evolution as a process that begins with each new existence of a joined sperm and egg cell as it progresses through embryology and eventually forms primitive awareness but ends up years later as a thinking human being. 

 

Dawkins talked about evolution where the genes were the driving elements and used their created phenotypes for their purpose of making more copies of themselves.  Jack appears to be positing the existence of something that would be using the genes to make the phenotype that clothes that self that is formed.  I think the issue will be about whether it makes more sense to see a specific set of genetic combinations can create a body that has properties that give rise to an awareness that acquires our unique capacity of self-awareness and choice (choice is, I think, the heart of agency).  Or, to posit a still unknown entity that uses sets of genes to make not just our physical being, but also our identity (identity in the normal sense as used in psychology).  I think this view will have some problems that arise in establishing that the unknown particles are also, in some fashion, the identity of the person - that's a bit fuzzy right now in my mind.



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Monday, October 5, 2015 - 8:49amSanction this postReply
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Organisms have a proclivity to build layers of protection around themselves to cope with environmental vagarities. Snails and clams build shells. Humans wear clothing, build houses and congregate into communities, states, nations for protection and to facilitate the excercise of those natural functions inherent to their kind. The construction of these layers is evident from the moment of conception.

 

Certainly a pre-human organism must acquire a certain number of layers before it can be considered human, but if an experience is to be had, it must be experienced by someone (some+ONE). Some THINGS may share the event but will have as many separate, individual experiences as there are elements in the set.



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Monday, October 5, 2015 - 10:01amSanction this postReply
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Jack, everything you said in post #4 could be accounted for with genes, and the unique gene-set of a specific organism can be seen as a form of identity in this context.  For organisms possessing consciousness, that would become a focal point of experiencing and a key part of the identity of the organism as seen by its peers.  One consciousness - one organism - hence the some+ONE who experiences.  What am I missing?



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