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Post 80

Monday, November 2, 2009 - 7:28pmSanction this postReply
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Thanks, Ryan. Facts are worth sanctions, but whether they matter otherwise I will leave up to you.

If there is absolutely no asymptomatic carrier state for smallpox, then that is possibly relevant — for smallpox — but I doubt it. You certainly don't become infectious only after your doctor has diagnosed you and only after Obama's civil army has come to take you off to quarantine. My understanding is that infectivity precedes full blown incapacity.

Smallpox is only one example. There are plenty of other similarly deadly diseases like typhoid (not to virulent) with 10-50% mortality in untreated cases and other plagues and hemorrhagic fevers. Rubella, a virus rarely harms children and adults but kills newborns and causes miscarriage. Diptheria infection is slow to manifest but causes 5 to 20% mortality. These are not headline diseases in America because vaccination against them is required.

The Australia and New Zealand cases are due to the isolated nature of those countries and the fact that they are basically naturally distance-isolated quarantines. There were 8 million people in Australia in 1950. Few people with smallpox were arriving by airplane.

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Friday, November 13, 2009 - 7:03amSanction this postReply
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Steve observed:

I think Peikoff has it right. Shedding the virus amounts to initiation of violence. Until that happens there is no justification for the government to act.

Bravo Leonard Peikoff!

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Friday, November 13, 2009 - 8:52amSanction this postReply
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I've come to this dance late, but this is one subject where the only logical choice in defending oneself from an epidemic is to assure that all potential carriers are immunized or safely isolated.

The obvious question is which is the most effective means. The means - public or private - is less important a consideration than the effectiveness. Ineffectiveness simply defeats the goal of protecting ourselves. Since both inoculation and isolation are the only tools available, it makes objective good sense (is rationally in our self interest) to ensure they be appropriately employed.

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