| | I am steve: I am very confused. Can anybody help me.
Chon Tri wrote: "When I practice I leave my monkey mind on the self. If it interrupts my practice, I view it as white puffy clouds in a clear sky." So, when you practice, it seems that everything's o.k. to you. How about when you do not practice? "...if I discover the new and unknown is it still new and unknown? Yet I remain up for any exploration. Let us go." Have you found anything new yet? Or when you practice, it seems O.K. to you, when you do not practice, is it still o.k. to you? If it's not, you have to repeat the same old for years of you life? And again, if the same thing keep repeating, how could you go or walk on? On my part, I have not come or gone, I have not stopped or walked on...from somewhere or to anywhere. You were correct when you said that I just sit here and share suffering and happiness with quite a few friends. --------- Steve Wrote: I wish desperately to understand. Did you not leave our computer and go to your rose garden? Do you not start a sentence and then finish it? Does not time pass between my posting and its appearance on the forum?
================================================ Chon Tri wrote: I am exploring. ================================================ ================================================ Steve Wrote:I have thought and thought on your words. I have non focused on your words during practice. I feel your point but have a hard time putting it in words. This tick of the clock is my whole life. What went before (my data base is and should be forgotten) and my plans for the future are dreams. I have nothing. Right here, right now, is it. The future is truly exploration. Old knowledge is useless and just baggage which weighs me down. I came into the world crying and naked and will probably leave the same way. My whole life is now; there is no other rational reality. ================================================ Chon tri wrote: Zen meditation (with or without methods or postures) is a process to empty your mind which is full of everything accumulated from the time you were born until now. Note that greed, anger, delusion, arrogance, envy, sex pleasure... are also included in the accumulated things or the old things. If you can do that then your mind will be empty of the accumulated things and it will regain its freshness from very beginning, then it will work freely with things around as fast as the flash of light. When your mind is empty your heart is full of love. This kind of love is totally different from what people call love when mind is full of the past and heart is empty. If you can arrive this point and keep it like that, you are liberated yourself. Also your five senses will function in the same way with your empty mind and full heart, too. This is the All-human, of which Empty Mind is the foundation, that I have and it is enough for me. If you think that is not enough for you, then I do not have anything else to tell you. Do not ask me about what I do not have. ================================================ Steve Wrote: How is your point different than this.-----"Original sin is not just misguided. It is fundamentally evil. It is an inversion of morality. A proper, objective morality requires man's life to be his moral guide. Original sin claims that his life is an affront to good. That his own life is not the standard of good, but the standard of evil. To the degree that a man tries to live, he must think of himself as evil. To the degree to which he destroys his life, he is praised as good. If accepted, this doctrine will cause unearned guilt. If practiced, it will cause death."--- How can one choose what to leave behind?
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