RoR: Forum

Thanks for posting this. Having seen the commercials, I was going to avoid the show, but now I'll DVR it.

Ted
(Edited by Ted Keer
on 5/24, 7:42pm)

Post 1

Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 1:33pm

     Missed the sucker, Dammit!

     Will catch it the 28th.

     Interesting company, Ed.

LLAP
J:D

Post 2

Friday, May 25, 2007 - 11:49am

John -- You didn't miss it. The first broadcast is Monday, May 28th at 9:00pm Eastern and probabaly Pacific time, with a repeat at 1:00am on the 29th. There's another airing at 8:00pm, Sunday, June 3, with a repeat at midnight, June 4.

So enjoy!

Post 3

Friday, May 25, 2007 - 1:22pm

Oops! Why was I thinking last Sunday? (Must've been that Bailey's...)

Thanx.

LLAP
J:D

Post 4

Saturday, May 26, 2007 - 10:26pm

Why did there have to be that damned annoying Jar-Jar Binks!!!!!!!

Post 5

Sunday, May 27, 2007 - 8:21am

ECC: Why did there have to be that damned annoying Jar-Jar Binks?

"Me-sa call for cibil liberties be suspended for crisis!"

Jar-Jar is George W. Bush and Lord Palpatine is Richard Cheney.

Anakin Skywalker is Condoleezza Rice.
Rudolph Giuliani ... Hillary Clinton ... there are all in there, too.

(Edited by Michael E. Marotta on 5/27, 8:26am)

Post 6

Sunday, May 27, 2007 - 9:25pm

Michael, in which country would you rather reside than your current home? And:

Were Bush the Hitler you pretend, wouldn't you be silenced by now?

I hear they've shut down Fox News.

In Venezuela.

Ted
(Edited by Ted Keer
on 5/27, 9:27pm)

Post 7

Monday, May 28, 2007 - 1:45pm

Ted:
1. You did not follow the analogies. If Hitler was Jar-Jar Binks, then who was Lord Palpatine?
2. If voting could change the system, it would be illegal. Protest all you want: no one cares.
3. Our leaders (pardon the pronoun) might have better self-esteem than Chavez and Mugabe. Other leaders play a game that only ends up with someone in front of a firing squad -- eventually them. You still don't want ours for in-laws or neighbors.
4. As for where else to live, a Poll follows soon. If I had wanted to leave, I would have a long time ago. Yet, today, the world is different than it was in 1957... 1967... 77... 87... 97 ...

(Edited by Michael E. Marotta on 5/28, 1:47pm)

Post 8

Monday, May 28, 2007 - 2:07pm

But who are our "leaders?"

Jesse Jackson? Al Sharpton? Ralph Reid?

America is still a representative republic. As a strict constructionist, I fail to see any "leaders" except for the commander-in-chief of the armed forces. Even then, that power is not dictatorial. The Constitution is not a religious tract, it is an attempt at objective law. Comparing GWB to Jar-Jar or Hitler is, frankly, deranged. I can think of 100 people of the top of my head that I'd rather have had as president, Ed Koch is one and Dick Cheney (homophobe!) is another. I'd also have liked to have seen Clinton and GHWB both impeached. But I never had to resort to nonsense and hyperbole to condemn them as cartoon characters or bloodthirsty cannibals.

Ted

Post 9

Monday, May 28, 2007 - 7:42pm

Ed,

Congratulations! Gingrich, Hudgins, Paglia... all in one segment! You should have talked this up more. I hope this will be a continuing phenomenon.

Ted

Post 10

Monday, May 28, 2007 - 7:53pm

That was pretty cool!

Way past my bedtime. Night!

Post 11

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 10:44am

I was eager to see the program, and what I saw was quite interesting. And, I was even more interested when I saw you, Mr. Hudgins, on the program. I'd be interested to know how many metaphors and symbols Lucas intended for the characters and situations to portray. Some are rather obvious, but others are so archetypal that they can be attributed to any number of things. That's the great thing about creating a mythological story like that. If done well, it can be timeless. Congrats on the airtime!

Post 12

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 11:19am

I only caught the end of the program (had a visitor) and missed Ed's segment. It seems to be a very interesting program. Hope there will be rerun.

Post 13

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 12:59pm

Don't you troglodytes have TiVo or some other form of DVR? One might as well live in a barrel in the agora! My god, what happens if House and Heroes air at the same time in your homes?

Ted

Post 14

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 1:24pm

> One might as well live in a barrel in the agora!

Yep. Or as I understand it, I've been living under a rock since I don't know when. I haven't watched a single episode of House or Heroes or 24, or whatever the populars on TV. But I do watch some History channel programs when I catch them. The "Barbarians", "Churchill", and historic dramas such as "Band of Brothers" are excellent. This "Star War" program obviously is another educational, enlightening and fun one.

(Edited by Hong Zhang on 5/29, 1:27pm)

Post 15

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 1:44pm

I liked what I saw of you on the show, Ed! It was all snippets of everyone woven together, though, but still good to see The Atlas Society up there.

Post 16

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 1:44pm

If one is even a 'slight' fan of at least 1 of the SW movies (Jar-Jar notsa withstandings), this was a really great analysis of Lucas' movie-series re its popular acceptance in contemporary culture. The saga's comprehensive harkening back to ancient myths, inclusions of literary styles of 'comedy-relief' and symbolized contemporary history, (and the implicit view of how dictatorships can arise from a non-dictatorship oriented populace [can one say 'fear'? and we know what Yoda says about that!]) makes for a, well, FASCINATING cultural overview of the whole series.

Glad I taped it.

LLAP
J:D

Post 17

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 1:54pm

Here I thought that Ed Hudgins'd just have a 10-sec comment-clip or two and find that he gets more air time than a few other established 'name' commentators. Apropos that he'd be in the 'politics' section of the program, and, was definitely interesting in his informativeness re parallels 'twixt story/myth and history. Good job, Ed! what ethereal company.
~ Ellerbee was wonderfully interesting too, but her "Be still, my heart" re Han's famous answer to Leia was beautiful icing-on-the-cake for this program. Hadn't heard of her in a while.
~ Other than as a 'counter-partisan' to Gingrich having comments, not sure what Pelosi was doing there. McCain'd've been more appropriate I think.

LLAP
J:D

Post 18

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 2:53pm

Thanks guys, glad you guys enjoyed the show!

I was interviewed for maybe an hour and a half to get those sound bites. I was happy they used as many as they did. If you read my articles you know I had critical things to say about Star Wars but obviously they were focusing on the positive aspects, which was fine. I thought the show went well.

As the show indicated, Lucas knew Joseph Campbell and was familiar with his works so a lot of the archetypes and story lines were intentional. I suspect others are so universal that nearly any story you tell will seem to include models from myths from the past. I did think that the comments on the show about the much-hated Jar-Jar pushed a bit too far. I suspect that Lucas didn't present a lovable, innocent child-like character who matured over the movies but, rather, a comic-relief character who no one liked and who was rightly relegated to a walk on in the future films.

Post 19

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 6:16pm