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Post 20

Wednesday, November 1, 2006 - 7:31pmSanction this postReply
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So let me get this straight.

Reisman said that Rothbard should have said that Rand first said (except it was really Barbara Branden who wrote it) what Rothbard himself later said, as if he himself had said it first, even though Kant had said it - and - Valliant accused Rothbard of having stolen it from Rand, or, at least, of not having credited her, as she herself often never credited others, as it seems Paterson said Rand didn't credit her, except that it wasn't Rand, but Branden, from whom he had stolen it?

Guess footnotes do serve a purpose after all?

Oh, and the "play" wasn't all that funny.

Ted

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 - 7:55pmSanction this postReply
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"Oh, and the "play" wasn't all that funny."
No, it was only worth a few chuckles at the follies of dogmatism. But thanks for being the first to actually mention the play in the 20+ posts.

Tyson


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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 - 9:24pmSanction this postReply
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at first...
(Edited by Michael E. Marotta on 11/01, 9:28pm)
and then...

(Edited by Michael E. Marotta on 11/01, 9:30pm)


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Post 23

Wednesday, November 1, 2006 - 10:00pmSanction this postReply
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After Aristotle died, he met St. Peter at the Pearly Gates. Given that Aristotle was a before-the-fact Catholic, he could get in as a gentile on special dispensation. He asked to meet Plato, but was told by the virtuous Socrates that, alas, their friend and mutual lover had been consigned to hell - for defaming Socrates and for bearing false witness against him by attributing arguments to Socrates in his Dialogues that Plato knew Socrates had never made.

That was the premise of the last paper that I had to write to earn the philosophy half of my bachelor's degree. The paper was technically perfect, written in dialog form, addressed all the required issues, and made every other philosophy student I knew laugh out loud. But the professor who taught the class (actually a post-graduate student) was a Plato fanatic, and only gave me a B++. The double plus seemed somehow Orwellian...

In any case, we rarely get what we want from our audience, so I try to post only that which I myself am interested in seeing in print. "I feel your pain," to quote my second-favorite living ex-president.

Ted

image, Hell, detail, Hieronymus Bosch

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on 11/01, 10:13pm)

(Edited by Ted Keer
on 11/02, 12:13am)


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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 - 11:06pmSanction this postReply
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Ted:

Thank you for that trip through your round-a-bout.

BTW, I do not think that the audience owes me anything, especially not at ROR :)

T

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 - 2:57amSanction this postReply
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Always some great pictures from Ted! :-)
 
As for which one of the two liberal thinkers was by far the best... 




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Thursday, November 2, 2006 - 9:45amSanction this postReply
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Thanks, Ted, for clearing (?) this up. Actually your
comments here are much funnier than the play and
probably more accurate too. BTW, is that a recent
photo ?


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Thursday, November 2, 2006 - 10:08amSanction this postReply
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The one on the left or on the right?

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Friday, November 3, 2006 - 10:13amSanction this postReply
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While Rand saw everything in black and white, it seems that Rothbard was some type of chameleon. He changed his colors quite a bit. But his dedication to Austrian economics was always consistent, and he was a well-read scholar.


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Friday, November 3, 2006 - 10:21amSanction this postReply
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The ugly baby picture.

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Friday, November 3, 2006 - 4:39pmSanction this postReply
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Rothbard claimed his varying political choices were always tactically based, not compromises with principle.
That said, I usually disagreed with him from his New Left
mania circa 1968 to the reborn Old Rightist circa 1993.
Murray was full of more bullcrap than the Christmas
Goose and he had his gang of Rothbardroids like Liggio,
Resch, Childs, Tuccille, Rockwell, ad nauseum, every bit
as obnoxious as the worst Randroid at ARI or TIA.
I remember a conversation in his apartment on W 88th
in late January, 1969 wherein a very attractive Jewish
gal named Barbara Weiss (no relation to the one at NBI)
asked Murray how he could stand blacks, she had had a lot of bad experiences with them at City College and in her Brooklyn neighborhood, Murray repled : "Niggers !
They are baboons who can be used for revolutionary
purposes." Quote, Unquote and there were more gems like that. Later that spring Murray went on to attack Objectivists and Conservatives who objected to blacks
carrying guns on the Cornell campus as "racists." He
was capable of anything. He was actively trying to recruit
ex-Randians to his cult and he made several converts.
Karl Hess was an even crazier buffoon. He pointed to black teenage packs running in the DC streets and looked at me and said, "They are our Red Guards." Later he said to me , July, 1969 that we should all be in Hanoi and kill all landlords. Ok, the latter I could go for but moving to
Hanoi ?????
Well, I had wet dreams for years afterwards about getting
in Weiss's panties so it was not a total waste.


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Post 31

Friday, November 3, 2006 - 9:09pmSanction this postReply
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Mozart was a red?

I spent Friday evening at the Baltimore Symphony listening to an all-Mozart concert. In addition to the clarinet concerto there was the overture to "La Clemenza di Tito." Clemency! Isn't that contrary to justice? And the program ended with the Requium Mass. Religion plus death! And what's worse, I enjoyed it. Not as much as Mahler but it was still pretty damned good! Do I need sense of life counselling?


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Friday, November 3, 2006 - 10:57pmSanction this postReply
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Ed,

You attended a Mozart concert!? Resign your position at The Atlas Society, claiming collectivist aesthetics as your reason; sell all (no, wait... give away) all your possessions; and take a motorcycle trip through the Andes, a la Che. You have some serious atoning to do!

Perhaps in a decade your taste in composers will be less collectivist. but don't think of returning to your profession- this is a flaw that not even reason can correct. A power higher than reason? Yes... bad taste!

:)

I hope the rendition of the Requiem Mass hasn't mysticized you!

T

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Saturday, November 4, 2006 - 5:33amSanction this postReply
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How so odd - considering Mahler was a socialist, and Mozart very much the capitalistic minded....

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