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Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 7:33pmSanction this postReply
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Jason,

Maybe it's a small one, but you have an error in post #10.  Williams does not support making gold legal tender, he favors abolishing legal tender laws; (laws that require accepting the governments paper money in exchange for public and private debts.  And presumably enforcing contracts that require payment in gold.

I see two major problems with the discussion of ending inflation.  One, as you are well aware, we are hooked on inflation and failing to inflate will at some point result in economic colapse.  Most prices don't adjust very fast and current debt levels make ending inflation a near impossibility. Two, we have devolved into a democracy and welfare state and failing to find some way to convince the public that they would be far better off relying on their own effort than depending on the government for transfer payments stands as a huge obstacle to any significant change.  There are quite a number of people who I am not sure would be better off.  In addition to that, it might be hard to tell an aging boomer that after paying social security taxes for 40 years, he has to forget about collecting his promised benefits. 

Finally, even though the price of gold is approaching $500, I don't think there is much general concern for inflation.  I think there is still wide spread confidence in the government's paper money.  As long as we can push it off on foreigners, maybe it is a good deal for us.   


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Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 9:17pmSanction this postReply
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Stan -- a number of your points are good.  I will not be around my computer much tommorrow but I will try to continue the discussion with you during the Thanksgiving weekend.

 - Jason


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Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 2:13pmSanction this postReply
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Well Jason, it's like...y'know? It's all the same, only the names will change. That gets on my wick.

Why do people get excited by this same old stuff when we already know it? "Oh good! Yet another chapter of Hazlitt's Economics in One Lesson has been reworded and re-released!" or "How intellectually stimulating! Someone else has paraphrased Ayn Rand's strongest and most obvious arguments into their own article!" I just get sick of it, unless there's a new spin or some new idea I fail to see the attraction of knuckle-headed efforts like this. Unless the author of the deed has four legs and a tail there'll be no kudos from me just because he's fetched the same old stick as has been fetched a hundred times before.

And in that spirit I wont retell to you what you already know about inflation. E1Lesson, Tiger by the Tail, Prosperity Denied (Kiwi book on the topic) and the orthodox tertiary academic spiel...that's about all I know about the matter. The heirs of our libertarian revolution are going to look back at our times and wonder at how stupid we all are to be duped in most every facit of life! That's supposing enough of us are revolutionaries to right such delusional wrongs as central banking.


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Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 11:36pmSanction this postReply
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Rick, the difficulty is that 99% of people haven't read or don't understand the arguments made by Rand, or Hazlitt or Mises.  So rehashes are necessary.   Most people haven't received the message even once and those who have can always use it in a more elaborated form.  It would be wonderful if everyone in the world would read Economics in One Lesson and Atlas Shrugged but unfortunately this hasn't happened and isn't likely to happen any time soon. You made the point very well on another recent thread :

"Post capitalism to the cathedral door of our times- be on TV, on radio and in print. Respond to the statists, don't let them steal the airwaves when we have superior arguments that, in willing hands, can and will disburse anti-freedom doctrines like so many insubstantial vapours. Form clubs and societies, political parties that act. Get involved in a magazine, in blogs. Let's make a podcast. Live your life preaching Objectivism always and, when necesasary, use words."

If you find a new wrinkle by all means employ it but don't hesitate to utilize the intellectual ammo provided geniuses (or to recommend their books).  This thread is about a very important issue that most people have not pondered (even in Objectivist circles).  The expansion of the money supply by our various central banks is one of the greatest crimes that modern states are guilty of.  Far from being a useless rehash, this is one of the most important topics I can think of.  I want you to know that I am a fan of you -- I think you are extremely smart and damn funny but why is it that you scoff at any thread that touches upon topics like this? 

 - Jason

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Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 4:01pmSanction this postReply
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People who are only good with hammers see every problem as a nail. 

Unless the author of the deed has four legs and a tail there'll be no kudos from me just because he's fetched the same old stick as has been fetched a hundred times before.

why is it that you scoff at any thread that touches upon topics like this? 

Because when I was 4 or 5yo my silly old Tasmanian grandfather tried to teach me to tell analogue time. I explained at the outset that I already had the o'clock part fully apprehended whereupon he persisted in trying to show me what having the little hand on the 12 meant. Silly old man! What an insulting and unjust treatment of my abilities! I batted the paper clock whistling at the wall and that was the end of the lesson- I don't need to be told twice what I already know. I'm still a bit sensitive about that.

Precisely because anti-Mex racism, 'crab buckets', metropolitan skylines, Robber Barroning, and inflationsim are real life/death concerns to be fought over is why they must not be toyed with. Writers who merely re-propose the  line accepted among our clique are only plagiarising someone else's spirit, not mixing it with their own. This is particularly conspicuous when judgements are misapplied without any concern for the nuance of an issue. That's when you know the authors are surrendering to the temptation to brown-nose and declare their libertarian partisanship because their main thrust is not an analysis of the issues but to show 'what side they're on.' The case of your inflation guy doesn't interest me just by re-permutating the same old stuff on a different day. Blah blah blah inflation is bad blah blah the government is hoodwinking us blah blah blah gold and silver blah blah give me a Scoobie snack now?

Bring any of that stuff near me, you bet I'll punch your clock.


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