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Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 12:32pmSanction this postReply
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Top ten reasons why Islam is not the religion of peace
March 9th, 2005
James Arlandson
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=4315&search=arlandson

Ever since 9/11, Muslim leaders who have access to the national media have told us that Islam is the religion of peace and that violence does not represent the essence of Muhammad’s religion.

Even President Bush and Britain’s Prime Minister Blair have repeated this assertion, saying that Islam has been “hijacked” by a few violent fanatics. Is this true?

Sadly it is not, for empirical, observable facts demonstrate beyond doubt that Islam at its founding is filled with violence—in the life of Muhammad himself and in the Quran itself.

Hence, these Muslim apologists must stop misleading unsuspecting Westerners, and they must be honest about the heart of their religion, for once and for all.

Here are ten clear, verifiable reasons that explain why Islam is not the religion of peace.

Clear? In order to prevent the standard, reflexive “out of context” defense from Muslim apologists, the context of each verse in the Quran is explained either in this article or in the links provided within each of the ten reasons. No verse is taken out of context, and Muslim translators are used.

Verifiable? The readers are invited to look up each verse in the Quran in multiple translations, by visiting this website
http://quranbrowser.com/
and typing in references, like so: 61:10-12. (61 is the chapter or sura, and 10-12 are the verses). Once at the site, they should ignore request for the transliterated Arabic titles of the chapters in the Quran, and just type in the numbers.

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Full article at:
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=4315&search=arlandson

Jim Arlandson (PhD) teaches world religions and introductory philosophy at a college in southern California. He has written a book, Women, Class, and Society in Early Christianity (Hendrickson, 1997)

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Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 4:24pmSanction this postReply
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One of the major differences between the qur'an and the bible is that the qur'an has survived in it's original form since around 600 CE whereas the bible has been modified time and again by monks in transcriptions and translations, adapting it to fit their needs.

Despite that, then the 10 points listed to prove the cur'an violent here, are not differing much from the stuff you find in the bible on these particular topics.

The Qur'an as well as the Bible reflects life as it was 1500 years ago, and violent it was. I spoke to a christian just a few days ago that suggested i try beat my kid, as the bible seems to hold that as a good way to teach our children. I haven't spoken to the bloke since.

Not the Qur'an nor the Bible dictates the kind of violence we see today, anyone that reads either that way are guilty of gross misinterpretation.

Not the Qur'an not the Bible is free from violence, and both have been grossly misinterpreted to justify extreme violence.

A religious war is a war where the main cause is, or appears to be, religion or religious differences.The European Wars of Religion, the Crusades, and the Reconquista are frequently cited examples.

The greater Jihad, has by some been interpreted as "the sword", the physical fighting, based on the Prophet Muhammad quoted as saying, "We have returned from the lesser jihad to the greater jihad". This report, or hadith, has received much criticism as being an inauthentic saying, i.e. it is a saying of someone after the death of Muhammad and was not the words of Muhammad himself. It is generally understood as an inner struggle of belief.

A religious war is a war where the main cause is, or appears to be, religion or religious differences. What we are engaging in every time we use the Qur'an or the Bible as reason, if we are for or against, believers or non-believers is a religious war.

We used to have believers hunting down non-believers, slaughtering them, watching them dangle in public hangings... today we seem to have non-believers hunting believers, slaughtering them, watching then dangle in public hangings... a religious war is a religious war, judging a couple of thousand years of history i don't see anything good coming from this approach.

This religious war where a christian minority and atheists seems united in a crusade against islam is a sad example that humans are dictated by fear and belief rather than reason.

Will the pope still be strolling about with a tea-warmer on his head, will the african medicine-man be casting a mojo on a baobab, will the ayatollah let you shag 72 virgins provided you die first, and will the non-altuistic atheist in the pocket of christianity, bomb his way to democracy for the good of everybody else yet again... These question and many more will be answered in the next episode of...

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Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 7:41pmSanction this postReply
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The Qur'an also dosen't have a "new testment" part to it to at least offer an alternative. Christians have launched some of the most terriable wars this world has seen but it doesn't command to kill/enslave nonbelievers and it tells you to turn the other cheak. Look at it this way, the fundamentalist Muslims want to kill us all and take over the world. Fundamentalist Christians don't even want a foreign policy. (Bush isn't a fundamentalist)

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Monday, August 1, 2005 - 9:22pmSanction this postReply
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There's no reformation possible.

Mohammad was the _last_ prophet according to Islam.

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Monday, August 1, 2005 - 10:55pmSanction this postReply
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Yes, but Judaism officially announced a "last prophet" too at one time. The Talmudic reformation came two centuries later.

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Tuesday, August 2, 2005 - 11:00amSanction this postReply
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Here's an 11th reason:

As Irshad Manji notes (Time magazine, July 25, 2005):
In 2004 the executioners of Nick Berg, an American contractor in Iraq, alluded on tape to a different Koranic passage: "Whoever kills a human being, except as punishment for murder or other villainy in the land, shall be regarded as having killed all mankind." The spirit of that verse forbids aggressive warfare, but the clause beginning with except is readily deployed by militant Muslims as a loophole [read: excuse or rationalization]. If you want murder and villainy in the land, they say, look no further than U.S. bootprints in Arab soil.
In other words, because the U.S. intervened against Iraq in the first Gulf War and had troops in Saudi Arabia, that is sufficient "villainy" to justify killing thousands on 9/11 as "punishment." That, folks, is Islam in its naked essence.

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REB


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