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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 - 3:01pmSanction this postReply
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Wow!

I see someone by the name of Joe Macare has posted a case for Ayn Rand - and he runs his own company!
 
Anyone know him?


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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 - 3:03pmSanction this postReply
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I just added my own nomination for Rand, as well as added a few words about why.  I recommend others do it as well.

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 - 3:25pmSanction this postReply
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I gather those 'celebrities' whose choices are shown are known in the UK. (And I thought celebrities in the US were silly... as usual, the Brits outdo Americans in yet another way.)

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 - 4:10pmSanction this postReply
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Jeff,

Widdecombe and Kennedy are politicians, most of the others are British journalists or tv/radio personalities. I thought that Will Self was known in the US?

MH



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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 - 4:12pmSanction this postReply
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And I thought celebrities in the US were silly... as usual, the Brits outdo Americans in yet another way.
How come? One of them chose Aristotle.


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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 - 4:55pmSanction this postReply
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Marcus,
Granted  I did seem to be making a blanket statement. I only spot checked a few. Charles Kennedy's statement I found particularly ludicrous, but I was mostly joking.

(By the way, you might not gather it from the form of my statement, but I was actually expressing my Anglo-philia. I love the UK!)

(Edited by Jeff Perren on 6/01, 4:56pm)


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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 - 6:34pmSanction this postReply
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Here is what I wrote:

AYN RAND
I've lived by many philosophies through my life, from Christianity, to post-modernism, to nihilism, and then finally discovering objectivism. I have created a goal for myself to live a long and happy life, and through my perception of reality and my use of reason I have been achieving it. My friends, colleges, and I have extreme gratitude towards Ayn's insights into how to live and our relationship with reality.

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 - 6:58pmSanction this postReply
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I said that Ayn Rand re-established the relationship between empirical evidence and reason, i.e, between the analytic and synthetic, i.e., between the external and internal worlds.


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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 - 7:41pmSanction this postReply
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I said:

AYN RAND
While Aristotle is the greatest known philosphical trailblazer throughout history--it was Ayn Rand who completed his project of the enshrinement of reason and its natural result: human happiness.


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Thursday, June 2, 2005 - 6:15amSanction this postReply
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I submitted one for Ayn Rand as well

Pretty soon the BBC are going to realize that they have been linked to an objectivist website
:-)


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Thursday, June 2, 2005 - 2:51pmSanction this postReply
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Marcus:
I see someone by the name of Joe Macare has posted a case for Ayn Rand - and he runs his own company!

Anyone know him?
Top Google hit for Joe Macare. No indication if it's the same guy, other than he lives in London.

(Revealed: My weakness for Google Stalking!)

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Thursday, June 2, 2005 - 6:41pmSanction this postReply
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Well, at first, I was disappointed, of course, that Ayn Rand was not more prominent on the list, but, really, that would have been a contradiction.  I mean, if Rand were popular in Europe, it would not be Europe, it would be America. 


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Thursday, June 2, 2005 - 7:32pmSanction this postReply
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Good one, Michael!

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Friday, June 3, 2005 - 12:13amSanction this postReply
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Michael! Stop swearing, Britain isn't part of Europe in that sense yet! (Philosophy)
On the other hand I do not know anyone personally who has read Rand so I guess you are right.


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Friday, June 3, 2005 - 1:44amSanction this postReply
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Does anyone know how to get to the raw numbers for this poll? The hyperlinks (available at the link) only provide for a limited, perhaps edited (Rand-excluded!), summary of the "results" of all choices--about 20-40 results are shown; none of them included Rand.

Ed

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Friday, June 3, 2005 - 2:00amSanction this postReply
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Ed,

If you're talking about the "summary" I think you are, then it does include one entry for Rand, from Joe Macare as discussed above.

As for the full figures, the next stage of the vote starts next week so perhaps they will be made available at that time.I'm assuming at least one edition of the actual In Our Time radio show will be given over to the philosopher stuff, so I guess the results could be discussed on air.

MH



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Friday, June 3, 2005 - 2:29amSanction this postReply
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Thanks Matthew!

Now that is interesting.

When I viewed the link (from work) directly--and searched for "Ayn" or for "Rand" (edit-->find-->"on this page")--I found nothing.

But when I viewed Matthew's link (provided above)--I found something on Rand (with either Ayn OR Rand as search terms).

Conspiracy theory, or mere coincidence? Does anyone else have this problem of not finding Rand on the tally?

Ed

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Friday, June 3, 2005 - 9:30amSanction this postReply
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Well, as Christina has pointed out to me, Rand is not popular in Germany - too many want something for nothing, and/or to be taken care of as 'dependent persons'.....

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Friday, June 3, 2005 - 10:32amSanction this postReply
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err.... Robert, whats Germany got to do with the B.B.C. poll?

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Friday, June 3, 2005 - 10:52amSanction this postReply
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Is merely an indication of european 'thinking' or lack thereof...


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