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Wednesday, February 13, 2008 - 3:24amSanction this postReply
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Love this show!  I have it set as a favorite on my DVR.   Ramsay is hilarious and straight as an arrow.  "The torturing of innocent food was criminal."


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Wednesday, February 13, 2008 - 6:21amSanction this postReply
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You are dead on - this show demonstrates Objectivism in action, in the way in which Ramsey requires people to focus on reality.  The US version is excellent, I have watched the entire season and loved it.

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Thursday, February 14, 2008 - 9:30pmSanction this postReply
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I wasn't expecting a three Atlas Point response to my review of "Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares." Obviously, there are those who enjoy the show as much as I do. Thank you.

To be honest, five episodes or so is all I have seen of the UK version and one of the US version. But in my first viewing (episode 2.2) I was almost brought to tears because of the quality of the dramatic depiction of the dysfunction and the owner's attempt to overcome it.

And Kurt, you are right about this show being "Objectivism in action." Perhaps Ramsay even read some Rand at one point. But in my opinion, who cares.

It's simply great that there are shows out there like "Nightmares" that inspire people to be their best and adhere to reality.

Tyson

(Edited by Tyson Russell on 2/15, 2:16pm)


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Thursday, February 14, 2008 - 9:37pmSanction this postReply
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What episodes have y'all seen? Impressions? Thoughts?


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Friday, February 15, 2008 - 6:47amSanction this postReply
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I have also seen and enjoyed a number of episodes of Ramsay's shows, both his "Kitchen Nightmares" and also "Hell's Kitchen" (where wannabe chefs compete to win their own restaurants). These programs are highly entertaining mini-lessons in running any kind of business. But they also offer unexpected lessons in human psychology and moral character.

Objectivism is a specific philosophy, and because there are no references to it or its principles in the shows, I wouldn't call Chef Gordon Ramsay's TV programs "Objectivism in action." However, I understand what is meant here.

Chef Ramsay is focused on reality. Every week he has to deal with people who aren't, and he has to pound home the facts of reality to them. In the unlikely venue of restaurant kitchens, we see all the variants on subjectivism/intrinsicism in psychology: people who simply can't or won't face up to reality because they are narcissists who wish to indulge some emotion or some Grand Idea -- at the expense of customer service. We see laziness, manipulativeness, and second-hander psychologies. And we see the result of these foibles and vices: failure.

In fact, what I like about these shows is that they spotlight how success depends primarily on character. Some people clearly lack the intelligence, skill, or knowledge to be in the restaurant business. However, many people who do have the talent nonetheless fail because of their hangups. Some don't have the guts to fire incompetent employees. Others want to indulge their own "creations" in the kitchen -- creations that are either inedible or for which there is no obvious market demand.

A constant theme is their failure to put themselves in the seats of their diners, and to perceive the restaurant experience through their eyes. Most of the problems would disappear if they were to consider, for even five minutes, the reasonable expectations of their customers when entering the restaurant. That's not "social metaphysics"; its the psychology of a trader, who realizes he must give the objective value of a great dining experience if he is to receive in return the objective value of repeat business from his customers.

And these are lessons that are transportable to any business.

If I have any criticism of the show, it's that Chef Ramsay is clearly something of a narcissist himself, ever playing to the cameras (albeit subtly). His curmudgeonly schtick -- foul-mouthed, adolescent, constantly bleeped-out rants -- gets old very quickly.

Still, the man knows his way around a kitchen, and he realizes that the rational aims of a restaurant should be to meet the highest customer expectations with excellent food, served in a timely, efficient, courteous way, and in a pleasant atmosphere. Those are objective values, and because Gordon Ramsay encourages them -- and the kind of character that produces and delivers them -- his TV shows are ones that Objectivists can enjoy.

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Friday, February 15, 2008 - 2:42pmSanction this postReply
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Robert,

I smell a review for TNI cooking in the Atlas Society kitchen. Consider me your sous-chef (or perhaps, pot scrubber) if you and the TNI team want to see it become a reality.

Your comments are spot-on. The demonstrable effects, as seen on "Nightmares," are something we can all look to as examples of the real damage caused by adhering to a certain psychology/philosophy whether implicitly or explicitly. 

Also, great insight into the proprietors ignorance/evasion of the trader principle-- they forego customers and profits because they insist on producing things or little or no value.

And yes, Ramsay does seem to be a bit of a wank, especially on "Hell's Kitchen." His psychology seems to be pretty sound on the whole though, he just expects the best from people and expects them to act like mature adults. As a bonus, here in Canada, I get to hear all his Fs and Ss because the shows are on after 8!

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Since I am sure most of you only have access to the US version of "Nightmares," seek out the UK edition, it's a cut above.

Tyson


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Monday, February 18, 2008 - 2:21pmSanction this postReply
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By the way, this quick scrambled egg recipe of Ramsay's is fantastic- had it this morning:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1SM73Qi1BQ

Tyson


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Monday, March 3, 2008 - 9:07pmSanction this postReply
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Two great segments with Ramsay on business:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRQFFDKmvdk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j7WdwcW06s

And, here's a good quick interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfZLYn8pFZI


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