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Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 6:05amSanction this postReply
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I did enjoy this movie, although I did have plenty of problems with it as well. I really liked the setting, directing, music, colors/lights as they mention in the review. (On a side note, I also enjoyed the Virgin Suicides also directed by Sofia, but I haven't seen that in years.)

As for this movie's SOL, I just didn't really feel for the characters. I was rather annoyed that Charlotte would graduate from college (if I remember correctly), get married young and follow her husband to a country where she didn't speak the language, couldn't look for a job of her own, knew her husband would be working all the time, etc. Then she started to feel lonely, imagine that! They didn't even imply her husband treated her badly, just that he was away working a good amount and didn't do anything about how bored and alone she felt.

Similar thoughts on Bob Harris. Although he's really even less excusable. He's 50, has a family at home waiting for him, and seems to have enough money that he doesn't need to be there. So he goes somewhere he doesn't want to be, to earn what I think is money he doesn't need, and isn't happy. I guess because they put themselves in these situations, I didn't really feel for them at all. I liked the acting & directing, I just think it could have been a better story.

-Elizabeth



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Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 9:30amSanction this postReply
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I also don't like the movie for the same reasons. These two people especially the girl were just idling, doing NONTHING, and complaining of being bored?! I just can't relate to that.

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Friday, August 20, 2004 - 8:27amSanction this postReply
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Thanks for that Elizabeth.

 

I was beginning to think that only women (and Orion) liked this film. I thought it might be one of those emotional films that men just don't get.

 

I found it to be utterly boring and pretentious tripe. Sofia Coppola probably enjoyed hanging out in the hotel making this film - but just had a vague idea of a script. It's seems her idea was "let’s have a hopelessly implausible platonic relationship between two lost pathetic white American individuals. Might be a bit boring though, so let's have an alien culture of eccentric cute Japanese people for our amusement."

 

Japanese people I have spoken to think that this depiction of Japanese people in Tokyo is wierd and they generally despise the movie for being so patronising. 


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Friday, August 20, 2004 - 6:05pmSanction this postReply
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WHAAAA???

You gotta be kidding me!  You didn't think Bill Murray was hilarious during the whiskey commercial filming scene?  I gotta be dreaming.

Well, I do suppose the Tokyans were depicted as pretty surreal, though.  But then again, I wouldn't know.  I've never been to Tokyo. 



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Friday, August 20, 2004 - 9:16pmSanction this postReply
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why the hell'd he sleep with that hideous bar woman? what a waste...

and the whisper at the end, what was with that?

the movie was fun for a bit, but i didn't like the end.

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Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 7:31amSanction this postReply
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A wretched, unintegrated script masquerading as profundity, making for a pretentious piece of crap masquerading as a film. The most overrated film in years.

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Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 7:36amSanction this postReply
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Couldnt agree with you more Robert. Rootless, boring people. The BM character was reality based but I would have liked to see him change his life in some way. The film showed the desparation and the grays very well but...then what? Nothing happened.

John

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Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 7:51amSanction this postReply
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"Nothing happened" is right, John. Sofia Coppolla rode on her family's name and pre-Oscar politicking -- daddy Francis Ford C. and Nicholas Cage's -- to get the screenplay award for this completely vacuous and inarticulate mess. 

What screenplay?  Half of the show consists of hand-held camera work aimed vaguely at Bill Murray and the girl, who are chatting aimlessly (and inaudibly!) amid groups of unidentified strangers as they go party-hopping all over town. And what, exactly, was the theme? Trying to come to terms with personal alienation and rootlessness? Then why confuse things by setting it in a foreign culture (with all its quirks), which blurs the theme to cultural alienation?

This was perhaps the biggest waste of my time in a theater until this year's "Sideways" -- another screenplay Oscar-winner whose main character was -- like the Bill Murray character -- an alienated, love-starved, middle-aged neurotic who drinks too much. Roger Ebert made the best comment about this: Could the popularity of this archetype possibly suggest that Hollywood critics and filmmakers identify with such a creature?


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Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 8:08amSanction this postReply
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At least in Sideways the guy got the girl. Out of curiosity I read the novel on which it is based - awfull stuff!

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 - 5:19amSanction this postReply
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Omg yes Orion, the commercial with the whisky jus cracked me up but the actual storyline is generally crap because there is in fact no storyline, and that was the best bit of the film.

The film drags on and on and the only thing that is keeping you watching is the fact that your hoping that something might happen, so when the film does end your jus incredibly confused and disappointed.


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