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Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 6:25amSanction this postReply
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Lies! All Lies!

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Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 10:35amSanction this postReply
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Hmmm,  a lot of these unflattering characteristics could be equally used to describe women though...

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Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 5:09pmSanction this postReply
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I find this surprising coming from Luke Setzer...his completely true yet not-the-most-flattering diatribes (but Luuuuke, I still hear it in my head) about women would seem to preclude this.

Unless he's tying the emotionalism and mysticism of religion to women...that would be the Luke I know and appreciate.

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Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 8:24pmSanction this postReply
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LOL! That was good!

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Friday, April 28, 2006 - 6:20amSanction this postReply
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Actually, Steven, half the reason I found this funny was because of its slap in the face of traditional, patriarchal, overbearing, oppressive, Judeo-Christian dogma.  I can hardly wait for The Da Vinci Code to hit theaters for the same reason.  While I do not accept the author's alternative theory about the nature of Jesus, I do appreciate his giving the dogmatic mystics a good smack occasionally.

Given that I never learned to like hunting, fishing or sports, and how much I appreciate my wife's insights into matters of the heart, I can also appreciate the joke's slam against the stereotypical, know-it-all, domineering, testosterone-overloaded man.

If it makes you feel better, though, just imagine Fran Drescher's voice saying:

"But Steeeeeeeven!"


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Friday, April 28, 2006 - 10:00amSanction this postReply
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Great punch line. This was good Luke :)

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Friday, April 28, 2006 - 1:58pmSanction this postReply
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Ah it's been a while since I have seen some good ol man bashing on this forum.  I took the liberty to re-write this before I must rush off to go hunting and womanizing! 

“Lord, I have a problem."

"What's the problem, Adam?"

"I know that you created me and provided this beautiful garden and all of these wonderful animals, as well as that hilarious comedic snake, but I'm just not happy."

"And why is that Adam?"

"Lord, I am lonely, and I'm sick to death of apples."

"Well, Adam, in that case, I have a solution. I shall create a Woman from one of your ribs."

"WoMan? What is that, Lord?"

"A flawed creature, with many bad traits.  She'll lie, cheat and be vain; all in all, she'll give you a hard time.  But she'll be smaller, dumber and will like to collect useless pretty things.  I'll create her in such a way that she will satisfy your physical needs.  She will be witless and will revel in childish things like gossiping and shopping.  She won't be as smart as you, so she will also need your advice to think properly."

"Sounds great," says Adam, with ironically raised eyebrows, "but what's the catch, Lord?"

"Well  ... You can have Her on one condition."

"And what's that, Lord?"

"Well she'll be passive, ignorant, and insecure.  So you'll have to let her believe that she is pretty and smart, always complimenting her and buying her useless pretty things because she will think they will make her prettier.   And it will have to be our little secret  ...  you know, man to man."


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Friday, April 28, 2006 - 2:48pmSanction this postReply
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But the good diety is feminine, silly man........

[and a good man, of course, doesn't need a god]

(Edited by robert malcom on 4/28, 2:49pm)


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Thursday, May 4, 2006 - 4:29amSanction this postReply
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You see:

The Lord created Man and Woman, and Objectivists try (albeit jokingly) to debase them.

Post scriptum: In the original Hebrew, the word "Adam" does not mean "man" taken as the human male, but mankind.

(Edited by Joel Català on 5/04, 7:11am)


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Thursday, May 4, 2006 - 7:19amSanction this postReply
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Joel:
The Lord created Man and Woman, and Objectivists try to debase them.
Really? It's Christianity that portrays man(kind) as flawed, sinful and in need of redemption and who have to be threatened with ever-lasting pain and torture to behave in a moral fashion. Objectivists regard men as a noble species that can use its rationality as a means of determining what is moral and what is not. 

Sam


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Thursday, May 4, 2006 - 7:31amSanction this postReply
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Sam, you wrote:

Joel:
The Lord created Man and Woman, and Objectivists try to debase them.  
Really?

 Yes: you may find it in this same thread.

It's Christianity that portrays man(kind) as flawed, sinful and in need of redemption and who have to be threatened with ever-lasting pain and torture to behave in a moral fashion.
Agreed. That's (more or less) the view of Christianity. Christianity is wrong with that.


Objectivists regard men as a noble species that can use its rationality as a means of determining what is moral and what is not.
I know that's Objectivist talk.


Sam
Regards,

Joel Català

(Edited by Joel Català on 5/04, 7:56am)


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