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Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 12:26pmSanction this postReply
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I've been involved in the Libertarian/Objectivist community for around 25 years. I'm familiar with most of the personalities. However, I don't know much about the Ludwig von Mises Institute and Lew Rockwell. Having just learned that Mr. Rockwell ghostwrote the crazy-right-wing Ron Paul Newsletter, my curiosity was piqued. So, can anyone in the know answer...

...How did Lew Rockwell get to be in charge of the von Mises Institute?

...What is George Reisman's association with the Institute (he maintains a link to their website)?

...Wasn't Rockwell a Rothbard acolyte? I always thought of Rothbard as a left-winger.

...Why can't I get decent Jewish-deli in Monterey where I live?

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Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 2:57pmSanction this postReply
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According to the Bidinotto Blog:

"Rockwell is a pro-Confederacy, "paleolibertarian," blame-America-first, Rothbardian-anarchist kook who founded and heads the Ludwig von Mises Institute in Auburn, Alabama."

As to a good Jewish deli, I fear you may need to move or visit Beverly Hills or Encino, both of which have several very good ones. (In fact, one of the best I've found is in Thousand Oaks of all places.)



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Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 3:06pmSanction this postReply
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As to a good Jewish deli, I fear you may need to move or visit Beverly Hills or Encino, both of which have several very good ones. (In fact, one of the best I've found is in Thousand Oaks of all places.)

My favorite is Art's in Studio City ;)

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Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 3:07pmSanction this postReply
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Next time I'm in So Cal (may Jehovah strike me dead), I'll check it out. Thanks!


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Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 4:25pmSanction this postReply
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Have no fear, you will be struck dead - but when is the question...;-)

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Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 5:52pmSanction this postReply
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Before we get too far off topic ;)

I'm really curious about this if anyone can answer the questions.

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Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 6:09pmSanction this postReply
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I answered #1 (and #4, ahem). I wouldn't characterize Rothbard as left wing, but I can see why some might. At least, no more so than Rockwell might be. At a certain point, after all, the two wings do merge. (Nazis, for example, have often been considered 'right wing'.)

I don't know what Reisman's affiliation, if any, might be. Perhaps he's just not quite as discriminating about whom he plugs as might be desired.

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Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 8:47amSanction this postReply
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How did Lew Rockwell get to be in charge of the von Mises Institute?

He founded it.

Wasn't Rockwell a Rothbard acolyte? I always thought of Rothbard as a left-winger.

Yes, he was. As a matter of fact, there is conjecture that Rothbard also had a hand in the ghost-writing of the newsletters.

For more, recommend you pop over to Reason Magazine here . They have been covering every aspect of this controversy and will provide you more than enough historical background.







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Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 9:25amSanction this postReply
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Actually, a better link would be to this outstanding new Reason investigative backgrounder on the history of the Rockwell/Rothbard/Paul alliance.

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Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 9:49amSanction this postReply
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Dang. Outshone again!

That was the one I was looking for, Mr. Bidinotto.

Great suggestion.

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Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 4:19pmSanction this postReply
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Jordan,

Lew Rockwell is deeply grounded in Austrian-school economics, which makes his writing about economic-financial issues illuminating and powerful. He's a market anarchist, meaning he thinks (without good proof, in my opinion) that a market for justice must present a variety of competing "defense companies", as contrasted with the "Nozick idea" (not original with Nozick) that competition would soon lead to the formation of a natural monopoly, a federation of companies committed to upholding certain laws relating both to procedure and justice.  Finally--and this is a really serious intellectual defect--Rockwell is a Christian libertarian, given to publishing tracts on LRC written by various associates that challenge Darwinian natural selection theory with notions about Divine Selection, based on the misguided notion that logical problems connected with peripheral issues in Evolution refute Darwin's insights, leaving only God's Plan as the "logical" explanation. His Christianity also leads him to neglect important inquiry into the foundations of ethics, and to promoting Rothbard's The Ethics of Liberty as supplying all the answers one needs in this realm.
 
Rockwell was a long-time friend and confidante of Rothbard's, and the two of them set out to build the von Mises Institute to proselytise Mises' economics, a realm intimately familiar to both of them. After Rothbard's death, the Institute began promoting Rothbard's economics and his ideas relating to ethics, politics, history, and war. Rothbard does at times evoke the feeling that one is reading a left-winger, mainly for two reasons.

First, he was opposed to aggressive military adventuring by the US (and other states), so he opposed all the US wars from the Civil War forward.  But unless one believes that aggressive war is somehow good, or that Rothbard was wrong about history--as for example, about the history of WWII--then Rothbard was no left-winger, in this sense. The Right in American politics was dramatically transformed in the Twentieth century, from consistent opposition to military adventuring, to persistent support for aggresive war making. So, because the right in American politics shifted, the Old Right today appears left-wing. (But, of course, mostly the left promotes wars of its own liking, as for example WWI and WWII, Vietnam and Korea. Only a strain of left-wing thinking, of the religious left, tends to usually oppose US wars.)

Second, Rothbard seems left-wing, because, to an important extent, he neglects philosophical groundwork in his analysis, while always emphasizing the building of poltical coalitions for the advancement of individual liberty. So his followers include a lot of Christian libertarians from LewRockwell site, as well as Austrian economics "agnostics" about anything philosophical. He wrote a book on ethics that is second rate, that focused on deriving poltical ethical norms without bothering to explain the source and nature of moral principles. He hated Rand, for reasons about which one can only speculate. In fact, my impression is that Rothbard routinely attacked and denigrated as immoral anyone who differed with his ideas about any aspect of politics.

George Reisman was an early associate of Rothbard's, who, together with his boyhood pal Leonard Liggio--began attending von Mises' famous NYU seminars on economics at the age of sixteen!  Their first face-to-face encounter with Mises involved a ploy, in which they went to Mises' home to sell him a subscription to the Freeman Magazine; but, of course, they only wanted to see their hero in person. When they asked if they might attend his seminar on economics, Mises said he would permit their attendance, but "you have to be quiet." Reisman studied under Mises for many years, acquired his doctoral degree through Mises, and, along with Rothbard, became Mises' most accomplished disciple. Reisman also was a follower of Rand's, of course; and his book Capitalism integrates Rand's insights about philosophy with Mises' economics. As a college student under Rothbard's guidance, Reisman was a market "anarchist". However, listening to Rand's arguments about the subject changed Reisman's thinking, and he gradually moved out of Rothbard's orbit.

Capitalism is the greatest book on economics ever written, in my (somewhat unqualified) opinion. Reisman is an orginal and powerful thinker, who has made important orginal contributions to the science of economics, including in the area of price theory and competition; and in properly interpreting and  resurrecting the contributions of important classical economists such as JS Mill and David Ricardo, to Austrian economic theory.

I've never read Reisman's ideas on foreign policy, except that he wrote a paragraph or two critical of Rothbard's foreign policy ideas in Capitalism. Reisman has written that he considers von Mises, along with Rand, to be the greatest defender of individual liberty in history.

(Edited by Mark Humphrey on 1/26, 4:20pm)

(Edited by Mark Humphrey on 1/26, 4:21pm)


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Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 5:04pmSanction this postReply
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This is an excellent summary. Thank you very much!


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Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 4:20amSanction this postReply
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Excellent summary, Mark.

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Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 8:15amSanction this postReply
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For what it's worth, there has (apparently) been a long libertarian schism between the Koch Family (oil magnates who founded Cato) and Rothbard's followers (to include Rockwell).

Apparently, Justin Raimondo used to be on the Koch "side" but switched in the early '90s to fill a niche market in being the lone gay endorser of Pat Buchanan's campaign. Not coincidentally, he's also a hateful little man.

Tom Palmer (of Cato) has been categorically covering the trash that comes out of LRC for a while:

http://www.tomgpalmer.com/archives/cat_the_fever_swamp.php

Koch Family Foundation (unmitigated good stuff from them):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch_Family_Foundations



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Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 9:53amSanction this postReply
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Thanks, Jordan and Robert, for the compliment.

Re-reading my post just now, I was surprised by the extent to which my remarks were critical of Rothbard, emphasizing his flaws almost to the exclusion of his impressive achievements. So I ought to emphasize that Rothbard was an authentically great economist. Man Economy and State presented a systematic treatment of Mises' economics that had a wonderful clarifying power, that enhanced and illuminated Mises' economics. America's Great Depression was written in a time when almost no one understood that the Depression was not a feature of free market capitalism, as the left sneeringly drummed into the heads of trusting children and uncurious college students; but was actually an inevitable consequence of distortions woven into the structure of prices through central bank inflating. Rothbard explained with power and grace that both Hoover and FDR were ardent champions of government regulation and "rationalization" of free enterprise, whose interventions had the unhappy effect of deepening and greatly prolonging the depression. 

Although some of Rothbard's ideas about politics and foreign policy meet with disapproval from many on this site, I have learned a lot from the historical revisionism taught by Rothbard, by Leonard Liggio, and especially by Ralph Raico, whose articles about WWII and FDR are archived at Mises.org. (By the way, George Reisman's boyhood pal who attended Mises' seminars was Ralph Raico, not Leonard Liggio!)

When I first listened to a lecture on the history of the era leading into the Second World War by Raico at a CATO seminar in 1980, I was a little stunned and confused. On one hand, I was sympathetic to the evidence presented that refuted the official history of the events that led Churchill and FDR to war with Hitler's Germany. On the other hand, Raico's analysis seemed vaguely disturbing. He spoke, for example, of the concessions FDR made to Stalin at Yalta and Tehran as necessary and sensible in light of the "security requirements" of Stalin's USSR. Although Raico was arguing from the necessity of forging workable treaty arrangements among the three allied powers, much as others might argue for the necessity of FDR's alliance with Stalin, this seemingly casual dismissal of a historical crime bothered me. Years later, it came to me that, just possibly, Ralph Raico had incorporated unconsciously into his perspective an element of moral agnosticism, perhaps reflecting his immersion in Mises' world view. If this were true (it may not be true--I don't want to be unfair to Raico), it is also true that he--like Rothbard, Raimondo, and others---embraces a definite moral outlook that abhors totalitarianism and greatly values individual liberty and private enterprise.

One can learn a lot by reading various sources critically. One can learn a lot from Lew Rockwell's site, from CATO, from Leonard Peikoff, from Austrians such as Mises and Rothbard, and from historians of various political perspectives including even the left. None of these sources is right on every issue or concerning every fact in question. But critical reading allows one to own whatever is factual, so that one can integrate those facts into one's understanding.


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