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Saturday, July 8, 2006 - 1:07pmSanction this postReply
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Once again, America has wimped out. After talking big -- as always -- and fooling virtually no one -- as always -- America has put its tail between its legs and whimpered off the international field of play.
 
Prior to the highly provocative launch of all those July 4th missiles, the United States threatened North Korea mightily not to do so. Or at least we threatened them as mightily as the US government does, nowadays. But the North Korean hyper-dictatorship went ahead and test-fired its high-payload missiles anyway -- and in droves. North Korea also went out of its way to laugh and spit in America's face by sending the missiles skyward on our Independence Day, and within minutes of a Space Shuttle launch.
 
And what was the United States' response after all of its stern warnings? Nothing. Confusion, vacillation, timidity, and cowardice. Basically just more empty bluster, fooling not a soul on earth.
 
President Bush fancies himself a swaggering "Texas tiger" and crusading "freedom-fighter." Some tiger and some fighter! Bush is a joke. And so is America, really. In the current battle between freedom and tyranny -- between civilization and savagery -- it's truly amazing and depressing to see just how weak, feckless, and impotent the Good Guys really are.
 
Unfortunately we can look forward to more of the same when it comes to Iran. However maniacal and out-of-control these hard-line enemies of America are, we can safely anticipate the United States will pretty much do nothing to answer their controlled aggression. Certainly the US won't forthrightly terminate these threats -- or even directly, honestly, properly address them.
 
It was the same way when communist Russia got the bomb, the same way when communist China did, the same way with Islamicist Pakistan. America simply lacks the ideological self-confidence and interior moral authority to challenge its serious enemies: to vigorously attack and destroy these obvious worldwide evils. This might not be true philosophical and moral bankruptcy -- but it's pretty close.
 
After World War II -- which devastated almost all of Western civilization -- America vowed "never again!" would it appease a terrible dictatorship, or let it grow immensely powerful and threatening. But in fact the motto of America probably should have been "always and forever!" After the Nazis were finally defeated -- at enormous cost in blood and treasure -- the United States didn't even hesitate to appease the Soviet Union, even though it was three times the population of Germany, and even though it took over a stunning ten or so neighboring countries within just a few years.
When will the United States learn to stop appeasing raw evil? When will the nightmare of diplomacy, dialog, constructive engagement, and peace talks finally end? Probably not in our lifetimes. Living with fatal vulnerability, and in a kind of helpless, defenseless terror is now normal for America.
 
We did it with Russia, China, and Pakistan. And these horrific evils and threats are still mostly with us. Soon it'll be time for North Korea and Iran. And very possibly a few others will quickly follow.
 
In every instance we could have nipped the problem in the bud if we had simply attacked at the beginning of the broad-based deadly threat. It would've been almost easy. But instead we kept putting off dealing with these issues via appeasement and "negotiation" until finally it became too late. Most of the Bad Guys got their nuclear weapons many years ago, and we just had to deal with it. North Korea and Iran will evidently soon join the super-powered nuclear club. Then we'll all just have to learn to live with it -- or die with it.


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Saturday, July 8, 2006 - 2:39pmSanction this postReply
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I suppose N. Korea is hoping to elicit the same sort of deal they got from the Clinton admin on nuclear reactors, where the US gave them reactors, plus a billon bucks in aid. Maybe they are hoping we'll give them some rockets and another billion or so.

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Saturday, July 8, 2006 - 4:41pmSanction this postReply
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Andre,

Keeping in mind that N Korea sits on the border with China which has a vested interest in keeping a decent relationship with the U.S. and other civilized countries it trades with, just how far do you believe they will allow Kim Jong il to go before they tighten the noose around his neck and give it a severe yank?

The loosing of nuclear weapons in close proximity to China's border can not be an appealing prospect for the Chinese, and any nuclear attack on America or it's allies puts this very likely prospect too close to reality for the PRC.

Another part to the scenario for nuclear war is what North Korea could possibly gain from such a foolish venture, remember Kim Jong il is not a religious fanatic seeking some kind of reward in the afterlife, but is instead- from what I have been able to find out- an atheist who would look for his gains in this world. As with most any person the thing to look for is what's in it for them, or what are they trying to gain. Kim Jong il may be a ruthless person , but he does not show signs of being stupid and instead appears to be quite cunning. Let's don't allow kneejerk reactions to every tinpot dictator in the world dictate our course of action.

L W


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Sunday, July 9, 2006 - 11:21amSanction this postReply
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I agree that China is likely staying America's hand in this.  North Korea is no friend of Beijing, but neither can Beijing afford a problem on its borders.  Pyongyang's missiles and nuclear program are a potential problem for China. 

Often not mentioned are the Korean refugees living in China.  Most just sneak across the border, of course.  Others overstay their visas.  It is not clear how North Korea really views the problem.  Tapping off excess population would alleviate some problems for Kim Jong Il and Pyongyang, but, of course, the ones who leave first are the ones they need most...  However, it is apparent that China does not want these illegal immigrants. Women are smuggled into China where they are "arranged" into marriage to (old) Chinese and ethnic Korean men.  Some women keep a low profile, blending in, working as waitresses, etc.  The UN regards them as "only" economic refugees -- economic choices being evil, of course -- but China apparently would like these people classified as "political" refugees so that China can get money from the West for letting them in.

For the problem click here:
http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/pr/2003/01-19-2003.cfm

For the historical context of Yanbian (Manchuria) and Korea:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gando

A prose sketch of "the third Korea"
http://goasia.about.com/cs/china/a/3rdkorea.htm

 All of that being as it may, I agree with Andre.  When I saw the news, I saw no reason not to take them out.  However, I then thought of China and realized that the problem is perhaps more complicated.  Also, North Korea might have been purposely insulting the USA, but the fact is that North Korea sells missiles as weapons and these were supposed to be advertising for their products.  (Imagine all the crates of counterfeit $100 bills these thug states pass among themselves for technology that does not work.  How about those Scud missiles from Gulf War One?  Not shot down by Patriots, they simply decomposed in flight.)


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Sunday, July 9, 2006 - 12:42pmSanction this postReply
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Andre, I sanctioned the article just now.  I do not agree with your thesis, but that is less important than this:

The end of cowboy diplomacy
Why the 'Bush Doctrine' no longer works for Bush administration
Sunday, July 9, 2006; Posted: 12:46 p.m. EDT (16:46 GMT)

Long gone were the zero-tolerance warnings, "Axis of Evil" rhetoric and talk of pre-emptive action.
Instead, Bush pledged to "make sure we work with our friends and allies ... to continue to send a unified message" to Pyongyang. In a news conference after the missile test, he referred to diplomacy a half dozen times.
  http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/07/09/coverstory.tm.tm/index.html

I engaged the Red Check for your insight.  Congratulations!


 


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Monday, July 10, 2006 - 6:49amSanction this postReply
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Yes, imagine how bad North Korea is that China looks like heaven in comparison!

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