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Sunday, September 15, 2013 - 8:09amSanction this postReply
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...even those who hate redistribution more than we do should have little concern about our policies.
That is so slimy! They don't hate redistribution and it is a key part of their whole plan. That is like when Obama states that he is as strong a defender of free enterprise as anyone, and qualifies it with something like "but there are limits."

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Monday, September 16, 2013 - 8:18amSanction this postReply
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Libertarian Paternalists?

Sure thing; I saw their stand this year at PETA's Annual Pidgeon Shoot. They were selling BBQ.

http://www.amazon.com/Against-Autonomy-Justifying-Coercive-Paternalism/dp/1107024846

Paternalism is no longer a stigma; it is the proud new badge of these critters. They are finally getting over their bad selves and simply coming out and proudly proclaiming, "That's right; we're what in an older age would have been called 'busybodies.' What of it?"

Paternalistic Megalomania: is it time for the Telethon?

Or, are they just trying to smear libertarians?

Or...is this yet more existential fear, bubbling to the surface? "Those damnded libertarians are showing signs of breaking out of that forever 1% lockbox...got to smack them down before they hit 2%..."

regards,
Fred


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Monday, September 16, 2013 - 9:13amSanction this postReply
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Dick Morris, the political adviser to Clinton invented the use of the term "Triangulation" (in politics) to mean that your candidate continues to hold the same principles his political base expects, but he also starts advocating what his opponents are for... not everything, but some of the things that win them strong support. Stealing the reason for electing them. Triangulation only requires an adroit use of the language and an absence of morals.

They talk about Clinton moving to the middle to get reelected, but it was more that his language moved to the middle, and when the new Congress came in with a Republican majority, he had to make some compromises he wouldn't otherwise have made. He didn't 'move', he was just pushed a little, after he had talked like he had moved.

I'm betting that these people call themselves libertarians to steal some of the attraction that term is acquiring in the political arena. It is like Obama calling him self a major supporter of the free market, and saying that JOBS is the number 1 priority, and claiming that Obamacare will save money, etc., etc.

It's also an epistemological attack on the philosophical base of your opponents. Using the word 'libertarian' to mean something that is specifically not libertarian, and that counterfeit usage will tend to dilute, and even drive the real meaning out of being.

And, Fred, I think that there is a degree of fear on their part, because that tiny political force that is libertarian, is the only one that articulates good arguments against the incessant, busybody nudging - the only one that gets what they are trying to put over on everyone.

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Monday, September 16, 2013 - 7:04pmSanction this postReply
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Steve:

The proof of their fear is their snarl every time they refer to libertarians as 'extremists.'

regards,
Fred



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