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Sunday, July 4, 2004 - 9:00amSanction this postReply
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Tibor,

Thanks for the timely, revealing, and "spirit-moving" essay! Independence Day has become the most important holiday to me and I've adopted the purpose of making this view contagious. Your essay served to strengthen my proud, productive, purpose here.

Thanks again!
Ed

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Sunday, July 4, 2004 - 7:02pmSanction this postReply
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Loved this essay... it's so true. 

How can complacent sheep celebrate independence?

Loved your point about "inalienable rights"... First of all, they're not "inalienable".  People can easily find themselves living as slaves, virtually overnight. 

Secondly, when something is an "inalienable right", why celebrate it?  Do we celebrate "Gravity Day" every year?  Gravity is constant, and humans depend upon it... we know it to be inalienable, and therefore we regard it by now as our right.  Of course not.  You celebrate that which you know damn well is wonderful but tenuous!

(Edited by Orion Reasoner on 7/04, 7:06pm)


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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 - 4:03pmSanction this postReply
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Loved your point about "inalienable rights"... First of all, they're not "inalienable". People can easily find themselves living as slaves, virtually overnight.

Inalienable and violated are different things. Inalienable means that my moral right can't be taken away, not that it can't be violated. It means that those slaves have a moral right to rebel, to fight back, and that those who have enslaved them are in the wrong.

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...when something is an "inalienable right", why celebrate it? Do we celebrate "Gravity Day" every year? Gravity is constant, and humans depend upon it... we know it to be inalienable, and therefore we regard it by now as our right. Of course not. You celebrate that which you know damn well is wonderful but tenuous!

We celebrate the birth of a government that is based upon those inalienable rights. We celebrate the idea of a government whose purpose is the protection of those rights.



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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 - 10:58pmSanction this postReply
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If our government can be considered a "parent" as a metaphor who do we appeal to for gross negligence and child abuse!  How do we as people with these rights make a corrupted government fall back into it's moral roll and stop it's excesses.  Clearly it has gone far beyond it's mandate.  Anyone have a reset button?



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